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Energy comes at a very high price - get over it.

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  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    wotsthat wrote: »
    The link between old people dying to the amount of insulation in my roof is so tenuous to be irrelevant. They die because they can't or won't heat their houses.

    My bills are to cover energy use. Me overpaying seems an inefficient way of helping those least able to pay.


    The die beacause they can't heat their homes.

    If they don't many will choke the NHS.

    Never mind eh.
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

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  • TruckerT
    TruckerT Posts: 1,714 Forumite
    The die beacause they can't heat their homes.

    If they don't many will choke the NHS.

    Never mind eh.

    Actually, they die because they are old. Un-naturally high temperatures are best reserved for the growers of forced rhubarb.

    TruckerT
    According to Clapton, I am a totally ignorant idiot.
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    Some gas contracts are already on an 'interuptable ' basis and indeed have been for at least 40 years

    these are all for industrial / commercial companies who pay less for their gas as a consequence

    what the future holds is another matter but for now the poor won't be cut off
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    TruckerT wrote: »
    I don't really care! My total energy bill used to be around £375 pa, and it was pretty well covered by my Heating Allowance, my Warm Homes Discount, and 2-3 weeks Cold Weather Payments.

    The abolition of two-tier tariffs has clobbered my (very small) gas bill by around 600%, but hopefully the cashback will result in a real-terms reduction in my coming year's energy costs.

    TruckerT

    I don't understand you own gas contract problems
    but maybe if you wanted to post up the details people might be able to help
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    TruckerT wrote: »
    Actually, they die because they are old. Un-naturally high temperatures are best reserved for the growers of forced rhubarb.

    TruckerT

    Yes the same problem happens in hospitals. They suffer unaturally high incidences. Doesn't half play havoc with the statistics.

    Rhubarb or marijuana?
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • TruckerT
    TruckerT Posts: 1,714 Forumite
    CLAPTON wrote: »
    I don't understand you own gas contract problems
    but maybe if you wanted to post up the details people might be able to help

    I shower about twice a week, and it used to cost me less than £1.50 a month using a two-tier tariff. I now have to pay about £1 a week standing charge, even if I shower elsewhere and use no gas at all. If I shower at home, then I have to pay for the gas which I use in addition to the standing charge. I use gas only for my hot showers - everything else is electric. But I have no way to use electricity for my showers.

    Two-tier tariffs have become unavailable as a result of the government's misguided drive to simplify energy costs.

    TruckerT
    According to Clapton, I am a totally ignorant idiot.
  • kabayiri wrote: »
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    Perhaps it would be better for government to openly admit how energy prices will increase and help people prepare for it more. Right now, they suggest there is a market solution to prices. Mid/long term I really don't think there is, unless they considered radical options like breaks in supply.

    There is no shortage of fuel to provide energy.

    The UK is completely self sufficient in fossil fuels and has enough to last centuries.

    But we choose not to use much of it, and hamper exploration for, and exploitation of, the rest.

    The only thing driving up energy costs, and endangering energy security, is the green lobby and NIMBY brigades.
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • TruckerT
    TruckerT Posts: 1,714 Forumite
    'hospitals' suffer unaturally high incidences

    The most un-natural thing about geriatric care is the assumption that life should be clung to at any price. The thought of it frightens the !!!! out of me, but, so far, I remain capable of wiping my own !!!!.

    TruckerT
    According to Clapton, I am a totally ignorant idiot.
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