HMO License - I don't think my Landloard has one...

diesel9181

if you dont like where you live........move out! theres money saving and theres being nasty!!! why shouldnt you pay rent????? work harder and save your own deposit!

diesel9181

are the HMO licences the same throughout the UK? cause if you rent out a 3 bed flat/semi and the tenants arent related you need one, say 3 friends moved in.

noyk

Sensitive people these landlords ^^^

TJ27

There are minor differences between England and Wales. I think there are some major differences in Scotland. Don't know about NI.

Essentially, mandatory licensing applies to three storey HMOs with five or more occupants.

The legislation is (almost) the same throughout England and Wales. However each council will probably do things in a slightly different way.

mystic_trev

If the guys trying to cut corners (and it looks like your Landlord is) shop him. If he can't be bothered to'play by the rules' he deserves to be prosecuted!
Greedy Landlords give the rest of us a bad reputation. I like to look after my Tenants and in return they look after my properties.

Gold_Shogun

iom_dave wrote: »

Any thoughts as to what the conditions are rent would be repaid?

I would like to add I'm not trying to con my landlord etc but £3000 is £3000 (the rent to date) - and would help towards a house deposit one day!

Well, that certainly comes across to me as a potential con by you against your landlord ... Agreeing to pay rent for accommodation which you HAVE used over a long period, and then looking for ways to reclaim that due-rent for that rental-period so that you can RE-USE that same money (At your Landlord's Expense) to purchase a house for your own personal future profit & accommodation.

olly300

iom_dave - the landlord provided you with a place to live didn't he? There is no where in this country where you can live free except if you live with your parents. (Even that's not free due to the hassle many people experience.)

There is nothing wrong with the place in your eyes so why are you trying to cause trouble when the landlord hasn't caused you any problems over the accommodation.

Warn the landlord about his actions in regards to the law, make sure you have evidence of doing this and if he causes you trouble when you leave i.e. withholding your deposit then strike.

matto

The law is quite clear on this issue. If you are living in an unlicensed HMO which should be compulsory licensed you are entitled to claim back upto 12 months rent for the period the property was unlicensed.

The requirements for such properties extend to fire doors for each room, professional inter-linked fire alarm systems, and sinks in each bedroom, so it's not cheap to sort out.

We have a landlord who is allegedly acting against the law and a tennant who wishes to be compensated as is his right and people seem to be suggesting the tennant is the criminal?

sooz

HMO licences have been with us since April 2006.

The OP has only been living there for 6 months, and only now thought to find out about this! He should have asked the landlord about it before he moved in. Or, presuming he looked at lots of similar properties before choosing to live in that one, he should have heard about HMO licences from other landlords or agents.

I find it odd that the OP's primary concern seems to be repayment of rent, and not that the property is brought up to standard, both for him and the other tenants living in the property....or for future tenants.

We have a landlord who is allegedly acting against the law and a tennant who wishes to be compensated as is his right and people seem to be suggesting the tennant is the criminal?


I am not suggesting the OP is the criminal, but just that it is odd that COMPO seems to be his primary motivation

franklee

sooz wrote: »

HMO licences have been with us since April 2006.

The OP has only been living there for 6 months, and only now thought to find out about this! He should have asked the landlord about it before he moved in. Or, presuming he looked at lots of similar properties before choosing to live in that one, he should have heard about HMO licences from other landlords or agents.

Unbelievable. So the tenant should have known to ask about HMO licences before moving in and yet no word of censure for the landlord's view it's "some sort of red tape bureaucratic nonsense" when the OP mentioned it to him. It is the landlord meant to be the professional here not the tenant!

sooz wrote: »

I find it odd that the OP's primary concern seems to be repayment of rent, and not that the property is brought up to standard, both for him and the other tenants living in the property....or for future tenants.

We have a landlord who is allegedly acting against the law and a tennant who wishes to be compensated as is his right and people seem to be suggesting the tennant is the criminal?

I am not suggesting the OP is the criminal, but just that it is odd that COMPO seems to be his primary motivation

Seems to me that the penalties for failing to comply the HMO legislation and for the new tenancy deposit rules are deliberately designed to encourage tenants to shop their landlords. I'm not saying that's what the OP set out to do but you can bet your bottom dollar plenty enough tenants will.

As the new legislation seems clearly designed to make finding those landlords who break the rules easier by getting the tenants to do the dirty work, any landlord breaking the rules should have a fair idea of what could easily happen. Why is that so wrong if it gets the job done, after all the landlord has the option of complying so no complaint would be necessary It also levels the playing field with honest law abiding landlords who have after all paid out to comply.