BOE: "Not our job to regulate house prices"

leveller2911

CLAPTON wrote: »

do the people who will be living there currently not use
doctors, ambulances, hospitals, cars and trains?

And the point of your question is?..........

if these houses are overpriced and the people are unemployed how are they
getting mortgages and deposits or are you complaining about provision of social
housing?

I'm complaining about the total lack of a plan with regards to housing and infrastructure, no coherant plan/joined up thinking for the future of the area and this will only store up more problems for the future. This area is not and will never be a "Milton Keynes" of Kent.

Who said the people were unemployed?, I didn't.Only need a 5% deposit now but this area relies heavily on service industries so many will be on low wages. Regarding Social Housing ,you tell me, will there be any?.

One thing I am certain of, this development will be exactly the same as the Park Farm (near by) development in that the developers will drip feed properties on the market to keep prices at a max.

CLAPTON

leveller2911 wrote: »

I'm complaining about the total lack of a plan with regards to housing and infrastructure, no coherant plan/joined up thinking for the future of the area and this will only store up more problems for the future. This area is not and will never be a "Milton Keynes" of Kent.

Who said the people were unemployed?, I didn't.Only need a 5% deposit now but this area relies heavily on service industries so many will be on low wages. Regarding Social Housing ,you tell me, will there be any?.

One thing I am certain of, this development will be exactly the same as the Park Farm (near by) development in that the developers will drip feed properties on the market to keep prices at a max.

I am unfamiliar with the specific developments near Ashford but 99.99% of all councils produce a Local Development Framework - a plan for housing and infrastructure (or equivalent)

if yours doesn't then you should complain very loudly; if it does I would suggest you read it and report back about infrastructure levies, social housing, transport etc

leveller2911

CLAPTON wrote: »

I am unfamiliar with the specific developments near
Ashford but 99.99% of all councils produce a Local Development Framework - a
plan for housing and infrastructure (or equivalent)

There was a Local Development Plan, think its every 10yrs or so its revised. In the last one the Park Farm development was planned which also included new doctor surgery,community centre etc .The houses were built and sold but there still isn't a new doctors surgery or community centre. I think any planning permission should have been granted with a condition that the infrastructure etc was built at the same time as the houses. Sadly the local farmers made a killing as did the developers and the population were left to pick up the pieces.

The plans didn't include any provision for any expansion to the local hospitals for the increase in population.

You can't blame the local population for being annoyed at being left without the services they were promised. I may sound like a grumpy old sod but I'm a realist .....:D Mark my words and stick this page in your favourites, In 3-4 years time the housing mrket will be in turmoil.

PS:I have a few friends in Ashford and will look into the development plan and post back.

grizzly1911

Thrugelmir wrote: »

The Queen doesn't need the money at the moment.

Prime development land . It should be taxed as such. Bring it into use.

CLAPTON

leveller2911 wrote: »

There was a Local Development Plan, think its every 10yrs or so its revised. In the last one the Park Farm development was planned which also included new doctor surgery,community centre etc .The houses were built and sold but there still isn't a new doctors surgery or community centre. I think any planning permission should have been granted with a condition that the infrastructure etc was built at the same time as the houses. Sadly the local farmers made a killing as did the developers and the population were left to pick up the pieces.

The plans didn't include any provision for any expansion to the local hospitals for the increase in population.

You can't blame the local population for being annoyed at being left without the services they were promised. I may sound like a grumpy old sod but I'm a realist .....:D Mark my words and stick this page in your favourites, In 3-4 years time the housing mrket will be in turmoil.

PS:I have a few friends in Ashford and will look into the development plan and post back.

One would have thought that it is the responsibility of the local community to fund and provide infrastructure they need like schools, roads, hospital etc and not the local farmers.
After all those new people pay their council tax.

as a matter of interest how much profit did the developers make?


in what way will the housing market be in turmoil?
it seems to be to have been in that state since the WW2

leveller2911

Actually many developers will add "sweetners" in their plans to try and reduce the amount of opposition to the planning applications. Doesn't this happen in your area Clapton?. I believe there are government guidelines with regards to population density and local services like health etc. No point building thousands of new homes in an area without building the infrastructure (hospitals,roads etc).

In one area of Ashford they have tried to change the road traffic signalling/road layout 4 times in the past 5 years to try and alleviate the conjestion. It didn't work. If you look at Ashford it has Dover and the sea at one end and London at the other. Its limitations are obvious and not that many people commute over to the continent to work. The road network is nothing like Lincolnshire/Cambridgeshire and the restrictions for creating jobs etc are obvious.

in what way will the housing market be in turmoil?


it seems to be to have been in that state since the WW2

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I agree with you in that it has been in turmoil since the war, just saying the latest HTB schemes will be the straw that breaks the camels back.

I'm afraid Hamish may well have statistics to counter my asumption but I didnt see Hamish or anyone else on here who agrees with him predicting the banking crash and what followed.

ukcarper

CLAPTON wrote: »

leveller2911 wrote: »

One would have thought that it is the responsibility of the local community to fund and provide infrastructure they need like schools, roads, hospital etc and not the local farmers.
After all those new people pay their council tax.

as a matter of interest how much profit did the developers make?


in what way will the housing market be in turmoil?
it seems to be to have been in that state since the WW2

Are hospitals funded by local authorities.

I believe only 25% of council funding is through council tax.

CLAPTON

ukcarper wrote: »

Are hospitals funded by local authorities.

I believe only 25% of council funding is through council tax.

It seems reasonable to me that taxation either local or national should fund infrastructure and local services via local and government taxes.

leveller2911

ukcarper wrote: »

CLAPTON wrote: »

Are hospitals funded by local authorities.

My point is they have built thousands of new houses in the past few years but have not expanded the health services to serve the large increase in population. The local Hospital (William Harvey built in 70,s) is poor imho.

Building around 5,000 extra houses in 10 years but no increase in capacity of the local hospital or any new GP surgeries is a recipe for disaster. There were rumblings of a brand new school being built around 5 years ago which hasn't materialised.

I believe its a failure at national and local government level, as I already mentioned there is no joined up thinking or long term plan. The population is predicted to grow from 90,000 to 140,000 from 2001-21 all crammed in between the English Channel and London. It already takes an age to get past London when going North.

grizzly1911

leveller2911 wrote: »

Yes , but my point is they have built thousands of new houses in the past few years but have not expanded the health services to serve the large increase in population. The local Hospital (William Harvey) is poor.

Building around 5,000 extra houses in 10 years but no increase in capacity of the local hospital or any new GP surgeries is a recipe for disaster. There were rumblings of a brand new school being built around 5 years ago which hasn't materialised.

I believe its a failure at national and local government level.

It is called balancing the books.;)