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BOE: "Not our job to regulate house prices"

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  • There isn't exactly a shortage of land up there.

    There isn't a shortage of land anywhere.

    The shortage is of houses.
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  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    edited 26 October 2013 at 3:03PM
    There isn't a shortage of land anywhere.

    The shortage is of houses.

    Shortage of housing brought about by geagraphic demand and a wish to concentrate employment in a few honey pots like the SE.

    I find it surprising that the likes of Hyde, Regents and Richmond parks haven't been built on really.
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  • CLAPTON
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    Shortage of housing brought about by geagraphic demand and a wish to concentrate employment in a few honey pots like the SE.

    I find it surprising that the likes of Hyde, Regents and Richmond parks haven't been built on really.



    says a lot about your judgement and very little about housing
  • ukcarper
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    we here about all the spare land but there is not much inside the M25 especially on the western side of London
  • Thrugelmir
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    I find it surprising that the likes of Hyde, Regents and Richmond parks haven't been built on really.

    The Queen doesn't need the money at the moment.
  • leveller2911
    leveller2911 Posts: 8,061 Forumite
    ukcarper wrote: »
    we here about all the spare land but there is not much
    inside the M25 especially on the western side of London

    They are going to build another 1,000 houses on the South side of Ashford (Kent).

    One of the problems is the infrastructure, the Hospitals are at breaking point,anything up to an 90 min wait for an ambulance, no new Schools ,doctors surgeries again at breaking point (up to 2.5 weeks to get a doctors appointment) and even then the road network is dire. We have the M20 and thats pants most of the time and the trains to London are already packed most days.

    The South East will be grid locked within a decade with thousands upon thousands of new overpriced houses and little employment prospects for the inhabitants.

    Still, its HPI that counts, keep pumping them house prices up ,what can possibly go wrong.I'm sure Fungus and Judith Wilson will be rubbing their hands together in anticipation.
  • Linton
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    ukcarper wrote: »
    we here about all the spare land but there is not much inside the M25 especially on the western side of London


    There is a lot more than you may think (ie can see from the main roads). How's about the area between Uxbridge and Rickmansworth. Travel by narrowboat from Uxbridge into central London and you pass through semi-derelict areas of former industrial land and small workshops.

    And then you could build upwards.

    Though I think it would be better to move Government to Birmingham or further north.
  • CLAPTON
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    They are going to build another 1,000 houses on the South side of Ashford (Kent).

    One of the problems is the infrastructure, the Hospitals are at breaking point,anything up to an 90 min wait for an ambulance, no new Schools ,doctors surgeries again at breaking point (up to 2.5 weeks to get a doctors appointment) and even then the road network is dire. We have the M20 and thats pants most of the time and the trains to London are already packed most days.

    The South East will be grid locked within a decade with thousands upon thousands of new overpriced houses and little employment prospects for the inhabitants.

    Still, its HPI that counts, keep pumping them house prices up ,what can possibly go wrong.I'm sure Fungus and Judith Wilson will be rubbing their hands together in anticipation.


    do the people who will be living there currently not use doctors, ambulances, hospitals, cars and trains?

    if these houses are overpriced and the people are unemployed how are they getting mortgages and deposits or are you complaining about provision of social housing?
  • ukcarper
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    edited 26 October 2013 at 4:51PM
    CLAPTON wrote: »
    do the people who will be living there currently not use doctors, ambulances, hospitals, cars and trains?

    if these houses are overpriced and the people are unemployed how are they getting mortgages and deposits or are you complaining about provision of social housing?

    Planning has just been approved for 4000 new homes near me I pretty sure they will be sold but I'm also sure they will not bring prices down enough to make rents affordable to low paid people.

    Out of interest Clapton have you ever tried to move around the more congested parts of the South East.
  • CLAPTON
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    edited 26 October 2013 at 5:06PM
    ukcarper wrote: »
    Planning has just been approved for 4000 new homes near me I pretty sure they will be sold but I'm also sure they will not bring prices down enough to make rents affordable to low paid people.

    no idea where you live
    no idea of the prices near you
    no idea if these houses are for sale or rent

    but no, I wouldn't expect 4,000 to move the general UK market.

    low paid people will probably always need state support for their housing needs which should be provided on a needs basis via taxation
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