Facing dismissal because of a mistake

superbigal36

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Originally Posted by superbigal36
Got to admit this stinks of excuses for me.
1st You send deputy out with your parcel and no money.
2nd You don't pay him cause you have forgotten your purse. I am not sure how you would not have determined that before you sent him.
3rd Then you need the deputy to remind you to pay the debt back.

So you forgot the rules, your purse, and to pay it all back within 24 hours.

Now you want to deflect the blame onto someone who takes orders from you.
I'm not deflecting the blame at all. I know I've done wrong! I just feel like I've been shat on, and willingly put myself in that situation!
I take it you've never made a mistake???


I have made plenty mistakes which I then face up to.
I don't however have the memory problems you seem to have.
If you have excuses to all the points I have made then I am sure you will be just fine.
However calling your deputy a complete idiot does not come across as very rational at the moment.

wiogs

You have admitted here you made a mistake in doing what you did.

That is your defence, you did wrong wish to apologise and won't do it again.

Whether the process has been carried out correctly from what you have said so far I doubt it, so there may be room for manoeuvre.

As to the long hours and breaks there are some things as a manager (apart from knowing the rules of the workplace - time to learn!) has to do over and above those of the "staff" however working yourself so hard that you become forgetful, stressed and an unproductive member of the team is not one of them.

Poppie68

citricsquid wrote: »

From all the posts she has made it seems absolutely certain she knew he was paying for it from the petty cash, however she expected to pay the money back before it became actual money in the stores system, which does (in theory) seem sort of logical behaviour if you don't have the training in handling petty cash (which she says she has not had).

As she is employed as a manager i would of thought she has some years experience and ' handling petty cash' would of been brought up sometime in her career as i'm sure this is'nt her first employment in this field.

scheming_gypsy

wiogs wrote: »

As to the long hours and breaks there are some things as a manager (apart from knowing the rules of the workplace - time to learn!) has to do over and above those of the "staff" however working yourself so hard that you become forgetful, stressed and an unproductive member of the team is not one of them.

and if used as a defence it could go against you (the OP). If you can't handle the pressures of being a manager.........................

ValHaller

superbigal36 wrote: »

I'm not deflecting the blame at all. I know I've done wrong! I just feel like I've been shat on, and willingly put myself in that situation!
I take it you've never made a mistake???

You are being your own worst enemy here.

Unless you actually told your deputy to pay from petty cash, it was your deputy who made that decision to cover his losses on a personal transaction between you and him. If you have any sense.

And your second worst enemy is your deputy who exploited the situation to drop you in it - despite himself conspiring in misusing petty cash if his take on it is to be believed.

wiogs

scheming_gypsy wrote: »

and if used as a defence it could go against you (the OP). If you can't handle the pressures of being a manager.........................

I wouldn't for a minute suggest bringing the long hours, lack of breaks in as part of a defence in this case, I only mentioned them, as I did in my first reply, as I think that is seriously something the OP needs to look at in the longer term.

Poppie68

monty-doggy wrote: »

Yes somewhere on the back office system. I've asked for a copy to be sent with the copy of investigation notes.

Staff handbooks and company policies is something you as a manager should know...thats not down to your employers that something that you should familarise yourself with.

wiogs

Poppie68 wrote: »

Staff handbooks and company policies is something you as a manager should know...thats not down to your employers that something that you should familarise yourself with.

It is worrying, but no means uncommon, that "managers" know so little.

Southend1

wiogs wrote: »

You have admitted here you made a mistake in doing what you did.

That is your defence, you did wrong wish to apologise and won't do it again.

Whether the process has been carried out correctly from what you have said so far I doubt it, so there may be room for manoeuvre.

As to the long hours and breaks there are some things as a manager (apart from knowing the rules of the workplace - time to learn!) has to do over and above those of the "staff" however working yourself so hard that you become forgetful, stressed and an unproductive member of the team is not one of them.

Admitting to doing wrong is likely to end with OP being sacked. This is not the argument she should use in her defence.

wiogs

Southend1 wrote: »

Admitting to doing wrong is likely to end with OP being sacked. This is not the argument she should use in her defence.

If she faces an accusation of using company funds for personal use should she say no she didn't?

It may not have been her intention but it is what happened (so it seems)

What would you have the defence be?