"One in three over-65s develop dementia"

zygurat789

Trebor16 wrote: »

There was no discussion with my mum or other family members about this letter, it was just left by my mums bed for my sister to collect and it wasn't even dated or addressed to my mum.

So you're saying it was just a piece of paper left lying around.
I'd treat it with the distain that deserves.

Trebor16

zygurat789 wrote: »

So you're saying it was just a piece of paper left lying around.
I'd treat it with the distain that deserves.

It was part of a bundle of documents left in an envelope. But the fact it is a proforma that has not been dated or addressed does mean it hasn't been properly served.

pineapple

Trebor16 wrote: »

There was no discussion with my mum or other family members about this letter, it was just left by my mums bed for my sister to collect and it wasn't even dated or addressed to my mum.

That's appalling :eek:

Trebor16

pineapple wrote: »

That's appalling :eek:

It goes completely against the recommendations of the Francis Report and also the Government response to this report, "Patients First and Foremost". The statement of common purpose in the Government response is very clear about how the NHS should be working together for patients and their families and also in showing respect and dignity to the patient and their families. Ipswich Hospital have failed comprehensively on every count in respect of this.

SandraScarlett

SandraScarlett wrote: »

Unfortunately, it doesn't help one jot to know what the statistics are, and whether they are accurate or not. Getting Alzheimers, or dementia is a game of Russian Roulette, and there's nothing you can do to avoid it.

During the past day, my DH has shouted at me for allowing "those drug dealers from the Midlands to eat with us", mildly asked when "the gangsters from America are coming over", and yelled at me for "buying our food from the !!!!!".

:rotfl:I have to laugh, on here, though I answer him in a normal voice, usually saying something like "sorry, I won't do it again" or "they're not here now", because to disagree would incite the problems.

If I'd have known that his chances of getting this were one in 2, or 2 out of 87, I don't know what precautions we could have taken. Similarly, you can be the safest and best driver in the world, but if you happen to encounter the worst driver, your skills and track record count for little.

xx

I had to laugh when I saw what word hadn't been allowed. It was the organisation that The Godfather belonged to! :rotfl:

xx

teajug

SandraScarlett wrote: »

How true. My DH has Stage 6 Alzheimers - there are 7 stages. He recently had a heart attack, and I dread to think what would have happened to him in hospital if I hadn't been there constantly.:(

I lost count of the number of times I used the phrases "with the greatest possible respect", or "I know you are very busy", because, in spite of me stressing to every member of staff that I met that DH had Alzheimers, he was still criticised when he pulled off his heart monitor - as in "I've told him over and over again, but he still pulls it off"!!

It took all the tact and diplomacy I could muster to smile sweetly and say "yes it is a bind, I know, but you, as a health professional know that sadly, as far as he's concerned, he hasn't done it before".

He was transferred to another hospital, and I can't say I was really surprised to find that in this one, he was in the furthest bay from the Nurses' Station, opposite a flight of stairs and a lift. And yes, the words "Alzheimers patient" were clearly on his chart.:(

I could weep for the people who have nobody to fight their corner, because this is such a cruel disease, and the same goes for any poor souls who are suffering from any disease, who are on their own. Sadly, there are so many people in this sad plight.

xx

This is encouraging as they are looking for what causes Alzheimer’s and that is good as they will know how to treat it.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-24700694

pineapple

A terrible story here. It was years ago but it sounds like it could still happen. A friend was visiting her mother in hospital. She was due to be discharged soon and had been moved to a geriatric ward. Her mother had been complaining of a pain that day and asking for a doctor but no one took any notice. It seemed they were treating her as confused with imaginary pains. My friend kicked up a fuss and demanded to see a doctor. One turned up, pulled the curtains to to examine her mother then emerged to announce her mother had just died.
It was never proved whether her mother would have survived if she had been listened to but what a terrible last day anyway. It makes you wonder how many such incidents there are - whether or not the patient is actually confused.

teajug

pineapple wrote: »

A terrible story here. It was years ago but it sounds like it could still happen. A friend was visiting her mother in hospital. She was due to be discharged soon and had been moved to a geriatric ward. Her mother had been complaining of a pain that day and asking for a doctor but no one took any notice. It seemed they were treating her as confused with imaginary pains. My friend kicked up a fuss and demanded to see a doctor. One turned up, pulled the curtains to to examine her mother then emerged to announce her mother had just died.
It was never proved whether her mother would have survived if she had been listened to but what a terrible last day anyway. It makes you wonder how many such incidents there are - whether or not the patient is actually confused.

That is terrible but has been happening for years with love ones, nothing is being done about it as they seem to view it as people checking out therefore not worth the bother of helping or putting money into helping patients when they are pensioners.

We are also blamed for living too long and taking up beds and for using our state pension ie benefits despite people paying for them for 50 years. When people that are in receipt of state pensions and still working they are then blamed for taking jobs away from younger people.
It seems its a no win situation without it been becoming a sisyphean task for people of pensioners age:mad:

John_Pierpoint

Trebor16 wrote: »

If a person has primary health needs, then the NHS, under current legislation, are obliged to meet the cost of the care needed, regardless of a persons means.

........and which organisation gets to define what is a medical need and what is a care need ?

In the case of my late uncle they could not even read his notes and GP's letter and arrive at the correct diagnosis. However all geriatric people are going to die of something or other are they not? Does it make any difference what goes on the death certificate, when we are all so busy and underfunded?

If all was sweetness and light we would not have this thread or this one:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/800521

teajug

John_Pierpoint wrote: »

........and which organisation gets to define what is a medical need and what is a care need ?

In the case of my late uncle they could not even read his notes and GP's letter and arrive at the correct diagnosis. However all geriatric people are going to die of something or other are they not? Does it make any difference what goes on the death certificate, when we are all so busy and underfunded?

If all was sweetness and light we would not have this thread or this one:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/800521

Nowadays care is opportunities for big businesses to make a profit and are only it it for profit that has been proven time and time again.

We are all aware of medical professionals from the EU that are not able to understand English and people has died as a result. This would still be going on if it was not for the wrong amount of medication given to a patients that killed him and was taken furhter by the patients son who happened to be a doctor.

Of course it matter how people die they certainly do not want to die before their time and not in pain but with dignity.