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The IPC Ltd - Independent Parking Committee - **UPDATE**

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HO87
HO87 Posts: 4,296 Forumite
The Independent Parking Committee's website is now up and running. See here: http://www.theipc.info/

Their version of the AOS (Accredited Operator Scheme) is also up and running. See here: http://www.theipc.info/#!accredited-operator-scheme/c1yws

Showing their first 5 members.

And their Code of Practice can be read here: http://media.wix.com/ugd/bd9e08_a2dad1a02f8ea46a76b78ba0982af9a3.pdf

Here is the discussion with regard to the new CoP on PPP:http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=84020

There are a number of issues with that CoP and a complaint has already gone to the DVLA.
My very sincere apologies for those hoping to request off-board assistance but I am now so inundated with requests that in order to do justice to those "already in the system" I am no longer accepting PM's and am unlikely to do so for the foreseeable future (August 2016). :(

For those seeking more detailed advice and guidance regarding small claims cases arising from private parking issues I recommend that you visit the Private Parking forum on PePiPoo.com
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  • MothballsWallet
    MothballsWallet Posts: 15,864 Forumite
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    New PPC "club" CoP has issues - why am I not surprised? :)
  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
    Uniform Washer
    The Independent Parking Committee (IPC) is an independent body that encourages transparency and fairness within the parking sector throughout England, Wales and Scotland to the benefit of the motorist and parking operators. The IPC created the Accredited Operator Scheme (AOS) and Code of Practice in the wake of significant legislative changes within the parking sector and was created in order to maintain a fair balance between the rights of the motorist and those involved in the management and enforcement of parking on private and unregulated land within England, Wales and Scotland.

    Independent of whom? Who is involved representing the rights of motorists? Who exactly are in charge of appeals ? And I gather this doesn't apply in Northern Ireland?
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
    :beer: Anti Enforcement Hobbyist Member :beer:
  • HO87
    HO87 Posts: 4,296 Forumite
    More importantly there is this:
    Appeals will only be allowed if it appears to the adjudicator that the Parking Charge is unenforceable due to any applicable rule of law or contract.
    My very sincere apologies for those hoping to request off-board assistance but I am now so inundated with requests that in order to do justice to those "already in the system" I am no longer accepting PM's and am unlikely to do so for the foreseeable future (August 2016). :(

    For those seeking more detailed advice and guidance regarding small claims cases arising from private parking issues I recommend that you visit the Private Parking forum on PePiPoo.com
  • Dublindel
    Dublindel Posts: 406 Forumite
    I assume that under the guidelines of setting up POPLA through the BPA, all motorists can go through POPLA as a RIGHT. I Cant see that members of IPC can force us to use there own appeals service and must offer both the codes and the choice.
  • peter_the_piper
    peter_the_piper Posts: 30,269 Forumite
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    edited 5 October 2013 at 10:07AM
    Who is the Adjudicator? Have the DVLA granted access?


    ""each appeal is dealt with by a qualified and practicing barrister or solicitior "" Mr Sobell I presume.
    I'd rather be an Optimist and be proved wrong than a Pessimist and be proved right.
  • HO87
    HO87 Posts: 4,296 Forumite
    edited 5 October 2013 at 10:15AM
    Dublindel wrote: »
    I assume that under the guidelines of setting up POPLA through the BPA, all motorists can go through POPLA as a RIGHT. I Cant see that members of IPC can force us to use there own appeals service and must offer both the codes and the choice.
    Unfortunately not - and that would be far too confusing. This is going to be confusing as it is. In order to use POPLA the PCN will have to have been issued by a member of the BPA Ltd's AOS. Appeals in respect of PCN's issued by a member of the IPC's AOS can use the IPC's own IAS. (Far too many acronyms )
    Who is the Adjudicator? Have the DVLA granted access?
    The adjudicators haven't yet been named but its probably no coincidence that the two directors of IPC Ltd are both solicitors and solicitors have been indicated as putative adjudicators. The IPC Ltd were granted ATA status some months ago but regardless of that one assumes that the members will each be still in their 6-months probation period where they have to make paper submissions.
    My very sincere apologies for those hoping to request off-board assistance but I am now so inundated with requests that in order to do justice to those "already in the system" I am no longer accepting PM's and am unlikely to do so for the foreseeable future (August 2016). :(

    For those seeking more detailed advice and guidance regarding small claims cases arising from private parking issues I recommend that you visit the Private Parking forum on PePiPoo.com
  • nigelbb
    nigelbb Posts: 3,819 Forumite
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    This is ludicrous! At least the BPA Ltd outsourced their 'independent' appeals service to London Councils in fact they put it out to tender.

    The DVLA cannot let this mob operate like this with their sly attempt to circumvent POFA & keeper liability by refusing an independent appeal unless the keeper gives the name & address of the driver.
    Where the appeal is in respect of a Notice to Keeper under schedule 4 paragraph 8 of the
    Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 the following provisions apply.
    a. Appeals will only be accepted if they are received by the IAS within 21 days from the
    date of rejection of the appeal to the Operator unless the appellant shows there are
    exceptional circumstances for making the appeal out of time.
    b. Appeals will only be accepted where the following are identified:
    (a) the vehicle registration mark,
    (b) the name and a current serviceable address of the driver,
    (c)the creditor or operators name, and,
    (d) the land that the vehicle was parked on.
    (e) the date of issue of the Parking Charge.
    (f) the date of the rejection of the internal appeal.
  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
    Uniform Washer
    On the address for the driver, what exactly is a serviceable address? What is the meaning of that? Like the bpa they will be making it up as they go along.

    Another thing is what happens if a company is a member of both ATAs? Will these so called companies be picking and choosing what they supposedly abide by?
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
    :beer: Anti Enforcement Hobbyist Member :beer:
  • spacey2012
    spacey2012 Posts: 5,836 Forumite
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    Looks like they have had POFA read by a legal expert and worked out that it does not really mention an "independent" appeal is a factor in POFA.
    DVLA will take the money, protecting this revenue stream is a priority core value of DVLA.
    Be happy...;)
  • Guys_Dad
    Guys_Dad Posts: 11,025 Forumite
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    The demand that no appeal can be heard unless the address and name of the driver is given is an interesting one and not POFA compliant, I fear,

    Of course, it will be interesting if they come across a deadly embrace where the Keeper names person B as the driver and person B then says it is not me it was the keeper!
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