child benefit and apprenticeships. ..

nannytone_2

but the son is getting an apprenticeship wage!
Or shouldnt he have to contribute to his keep?

nannytone_2

but the son is getting an apprenticeship wage!
Or shouldnt he have to contribute to his keep?

Dunroamin

NVQs are the same qualifications whether you do them in a college or whilst doing an apprenticeship, the difference is that you can't achieve the full qualification without real workshop/building site/salon experience. Students who are in education full time often have difficulty in getting this experience, which means that a genuine apprenticeship is often the better route to take at 16.

bestpud

NotSuchASmugMarriedNow wrote: »

Sorry but i'm with the OP on this one.

youngsters should stay in education until their 20 - it doesn't pay for them to take a low paid job with no prospects as it wouldn't give what tax credits/child benefit/csa pays - plus there are far fewer jobs around now than there used to be so staying in education makes sense.

As for apprenticeships and internships - they should be outlawed :mad: . They are merely a means of keeping anyone other than the upper classes out of certain professions. I'm astonished it's still allowed. No-one can be an apprentice or intern without wealthy parents.

My children will be kept in education till their 20 - theres no rush for them to go out and get jobs when wages are so abysmal anyway.

Whatever gave you that idea?

Both of my older children did an apprenticeship and were both taken on by the same employer afterwards. Both are happy and earning more than myself or my husband and they are just 21 and 22 years old!

I can assure you we are not wealthy and I know lots of my sons friends who did apprenticeships weren't either!

They definitely should not be abolished!

tori.k

You will also find your outgoings will probably drop considerably mine is hardly ever home he is either out working or at his girlfriends/mates during his time off. he will be able to purchase his own clothes& toiletries with his own income.
Our lad was on a different college course when he dropped it at the end of his second year to take up his apprenticeship (with his Saturday job) his reasoning was he wanted to improve his work chances, to many of his friends were coming out of college/university and not finding work, an apprenticeship gave him the best of both worlds experience alongside the qualifications, to him making him more desirable for employers.

From our side financially we lost the CB a few years early, but it was always a bonus not finite so shouldn't be counted on anyway, the silver lining is financially the upheaval will be easier for you as your son will be earning then those parents were the kids have finished college and have no work. even if his apprenticeship doesn't lead to employment he will still have experience to draw on. my friends daughter finished her hairdressing apprenticeship they haven't been able to take her on but she has made her own little business going mobile and doing quite well while she looks for a salon placement.

princessdon

NotSuchASmugMarriedNow wrote: »

taxpayers have always paid for young peoples education. Not quite sure why you object to this.

Nothing wrong with Saturday/evening/part time jobs though - in fact they are beneficial to youngsters.

Pay for their education certainly, doesn't mean they should pay for an adult at 20 child related benefits.

Apprenticeships come under 2 headings, some are truly excellent and will give vocational based learners a huge step towards careers, there are some small providers that do not do their young people justice, but few and far between, certainly not enough to dismiss all as worthless.

Some children need vocational and work based training as will never succeed, however, by your logic they should only apply to none benefit claimants, as they don't stand to lose anything.

They gain MORE than they lose, yet it's still not good enough for some who think the state should still support them whilst working.