PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING: Hello Forumites! In order to help keep the Forum a useful, safe and friendly place for our users, discussions around non-MoneySaving matters are not permitted per the Forum rules. While we understand that mentioning house prices may sometimes be relevant to a user's specific MoneySaving situation, we ask that you please avoid veering into broad, general debates about the market, the economy and politics, as these can unfortunately lead to abusive or hateful behaviour. Threads that are found to have derailed into wider discussions may be removed. Users who repeatedly disregard this may have their Forum account banned. Please also avoid posting personally identifiable information, including links to your own online property listing which may reveal your address. Thank you for your understanding.

Restricted covenant - use of property

I live in a small development of 7 barn conversions, all occupied, converted 10 years ago. We all have restricted covenants stating that 'the property must not be used for any purpose other than a private dwellinghouse for a single family'

We have recently discovered a neighbour has agreed a sale with a purchaser who intends to run a B&B business at the property. The seller apparently does not intend to disclose the restrictive covenant to the buyer, relying instead on the fact that solicitors might not pick it up.

Can anyone suggest what our course of action should be?

Thanks
«1

Comments

  • G_M
    G_M Posts: 51,977 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    Restrictive covenant.

    You could try to contact the buyer and warn them ie:
    1) when they view
    2) via the estate agent
    3) via their solicitor (if you can find out who it is)
    4) you could erect a large notice at the entrance to the development

    You could speak to the seller.

    You couldwrite to the Estate Agent

    You could enforce the restrictive covenant(assuming it is in your favour) after they buy.

    You could persuade whoever benefits from the RC to enforce it after they buy.
  • anselld
    anselld Posts: 8,610 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    It is not clear that the intended use would breach the covenant provided the main use was still a single residence, any more than say, taking a lodger.

    As G_M states, it is only the beneficiary of the RC who can enforce it. If that is not you then it is, unfortunately, none of your business.
  • Yorkie1
    Yorkie1 Posts: 11,959 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    anselld wrote: »
    It is not clear that the intended use would breach the covenant provided the main use was still a single residence, any more than say, taking a lodger.

    As G_M states, it is only the beneficiary of the RC who can enforce it. If that is not you then it is, unfortunately, none of your business.

    I tend to think that taking a lodger would probably breach the covenant as a lodger is not part of of a single family, but that point is certainly arguable.

    However, running a B&B is a totally different proposition than a single lodger. It requires planning permission and is not a residential purpose e.g. for mortgage purposes. The covenant is quite clear that the only purpose for which the property can be used is the single family residence. It doesn't say 'mainly'.

    As you and G_M have said, the OP needs to find out who has the benefit of the covenant and thus can enforce it. However, G_M's suggestions may head the problem off at the pass if the potential buyer is made aware of the difficulties before they get too involved.
  • anselld
    anselld Posts: 8,610 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Yorkie1 wrote: »
    However, running a B&B is a totally different proposition than a single lodger. It requires planning permission

    Not necessarily. Planning portal states ... "the key test is: is it still mainly a home or has it become business premises?". Thus if the B&B use is subsidiary to the main use as a family residence then change of use would not be required. Same as lodgers; have too many and you become C4/HMO, have one or two and you are OK.
  • vivatifosi
    vivatifosi Posts: 18,746 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Mortgage-free Glee! PPI Party Pooper
    edited 28 September 2013 at 10:30PM
    Do you have a resident's management co? This is the sort of issue they should be handling as they should know the deeds and who can enforce them. I am a director of an RMC and we routinely write to all EAs telling them what the RCs are. It also takes the emotional aspect out of the equation as everyone is treated equally.

    Failing that, look at the deeds. Check who can enforce the RCs. Where I am, anyone can enforce them: the original developer (unlikely), the householders, future householders once the share has been passed on, the RMC. It all depends on how the deeds were written.

    If the seller is doing this in full knowledge of the RCs and is still keeping it from the buyer, I also think that is quite shoddy behaviour.
    Please stay safe in the sun and learn the A-E of melanoma: A = asymmetry, B = irregular borders, C= different colours, D= diameter, larger than 6mm, E = evolving, is your mole changing? Most moles are not cancerous, any doubts, please check next time you visit your GP.
  • ValHaller
    ValHaller Posts: 5,212 Forumite
    1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    I am thinking a threatogram from a solicitor to the Vendor, reminding them of the covenant and advising that if they should sell to a B&B operator, their purchaser would find themselves at the sharp end of legal action and advising the vendor that the letter should be disclosed to the buyer as part of the conveyancing process.

    Scenarios
    • Vendor ignores letter, sells to B&B operator. You then get your lawyer to write another threatogram, with a copy of the letter to the vendor attached. Buyer then turns on vendor
    • Vendor realises above scenario and passes letter to buyer, who either buys or runs a mile
    You might as well ask the Wizard of Oz to give you a big number as pay a Credit Referencing Agency for a so-called 'credit-score'
  • vivatifosi wrote: »
    Do you have a resident's management co? This is the sort of issue they should be handling as they should know the deeds and who can enforce them. I am a director of an RMC and we routinely write to all EAs telling them what the RCs are. It also takes the emotional aspect out of the equation as everyone is treated equally.

    Failing that, look at the deeds. Check who can enforce the RCs. Where I am, anyone can enforce them: the original developer (unlikely), the householders, future householders once the share has been passed on, the RMC. It all depends on how the deeds were written.

    If the seller is doing this in full knowledge of the RCs and is still keeping it from the buyer, I also think that is quite shoddy behaviour.
    Thank you for the advice. The barns are all freehold and from the original agreement with the farmer on the original sale of his barns each successor in title over the years has been required to sign their conveyance with the clause included. We have a management company, all with equal shares.
    I assume from this anyone of us could enforce the restriction?
  • vivatifosi
    vivatifosi Posts: 18,746 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Mortgage-free Glee! PPI Party Pooper
    billiebess wrote: »
    Thank you for the advice. The barns are all freehold and from the original agreement with the farmer on the original sale of his barns each successor in title over the years has been required to sign their conveyance with the clause included. We have a management company, all with equal shares.
    I assume from this anyone of us could enforce the restriction?

    I'm really sorry, but while the answer is potentially yes, the only way you will know for sure is to read the deeds.
    Please stay safe in the sun and learn the A-E of melanoma: A = asymmetry, B = irregular borders, C= different colours, D= diameter, larger than 6mm, E = evolving, is your mole changing? Most moles are not cancerous, any doubts, please check next time you visit your GP.
  • the problem may lie with getting those that can enforce to take action.
  • G_M
    G_M Posts: 51,977 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    billiebess wrote: »
    Thank you for the advice. The barns are all freehold and from the original agreement with the farmer on the original sale of his barns each successor in title over the years has been required to sign their conveyance with the clause included. We have a management company, all with equal shares.
    I assume from this anyone of us could enforce the restriction?
    Quite possibly it is the farmer who has to enforce.

    Read the covenant.
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 350.3K Banking & Borrowing
  • 252.9K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 453.2K Spending & Discounts
  • 243.3K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 597.8K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 176.6K Life & Family
  • 256.3K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.1K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.