Paid fortune to repair used car already!

Vicgate

Hi folks newbie here looking for some advice.
Bought a 2005 diesel mondo from a local small dealer, good mileage on it only 60000 - cost 2400 gbp and he gave me a 3 month engine only warranty.
Problems ever since. Flywheel had to be replaced after a month - dealer said that it wasn't part of the engine therefore does not apply. Then 3 weeks ago after getting that fixed for 600, the car gave more issues driving. Turns out it needs new injectors and a pump - the mechanic says it was being used with laundered diesel - will cost another 1000 to fix- the 3 month warranty has now expired.
Planning to back to dealer, what do you think my approach should be please.
Andy advice gratefully received
James

OddballJamie

Someone will be a long soon with talk of SOGA but before then I'll point out that 60,000 miles on an 8 year old diesel is not good mileage, should be twice that.

Retrogamer

Sales of goods act.
Goods sold must be fit for purpose and last a reasonable amount of time
If the goods fail or part of them fails within 6 months, then it's up to the dealership to prove the faults weren't there when the vehicle was sold.

May take small claims to force them to resolve though.

The flywheel needing replaced should have been paid for by the dealer as it failed so soon.
Also, if they state the flywheel isn't part of the engine ask them to show you an engine running perfectly without one. It won't happen

Vicgate

Thanks for this so far folks - never even thought of the soga. The seller has a shop and 20 cars or so, so even though he's a small operator I assume he still qualifies as a "trader"as opposed to a private seller?

OddballJamie

Yes he's a trader.

westwood68

Someone on here might have knowledge of the specific process to go through but at least head to the citizens advice bureau. I would imagine that unless the guy goes bankrupt you'll be able to get a lot of the cost (if not all) covered

jase1

Most, if not all low-mileage TDCi Mondeos will be wrecks by the time they are 8 years old. These drivetrains are fundamentally unsuited to round-town driving.

motorguy

westwood68 wrote: »

Someone on here might have knowledge of the specific process to go through but at least head to the citizens advice bureau. I would imagine that unless the guy goes bankrupt you'll be able to get a lot of the cost (if not all) covered

Not necessarily.

The dealer must have been given the opportunity to resolve the issue. Also the dealer has to cover "faults" under the SOGA not wear and tear.

The flywheel issue is wear and tear. Its a known issue on these cars. Chances are it was starting to go when the car was bought though, so the dealer *should* have accepted liability.

Injectors - bad fuel by current owner or previous owner? - who knows. Could have been bought inadvertently by current owner. Hard to say. Cant really be described as falling to the dealer to resolve though? Even Ford wont cover the effects of bad diesel if the car was say, a year old.

The *only* way to get this resolved is to take it to court. "Could" go the buyers way, but might not. Expensive and long winded.

Bad cars in the first place. Bad age for the dealer to be selling a diesel car at.

motorguy

jase1 wrote: »

Most, if not all low-mileage TDCi Mondeos will be wrecks by the time they are 8 years old. These drivetrains are fundamentally unsuited to round-town driving.

+1

Bad engines.

spacey2012

They are two variants of this engine, the 130 and the 110, the 130 is usually an absolute and utter dog and the 110, as good as they get, the 130 had different injectors and system that fails and the extra torque shreds the flywheel.
The mechanic would not know what diesel it has been used with unless the lines are stained red and even then, red diesel is road standard fuel just with red dye instead of yellow die.

If you find a Mondeo specialist, they can often re-code injectors and get the car running again, the code is just a default value and most good Diesel techs just insert the next value down on the out of tolerance injector.

If the DMF Flywheel was not replaced with the genuine factory balanced kit with balanced bolts, it needs to be got rid of as soon as possible as it will fail again quickly.

If this is not the 130 engine and the 110, the car has been seriously clocked, by at least 100k.

fivetide

spacey2012 wrote: »

If this is not the 130 engine and the 110, the car has been seriously clocked, by at least 100k.

My thought too. Despite what has been written above a number of local taxi firms use the 110 because it is a good reliable engine and they like the comfort (plus the Octavias can blow a turbo once in a while).

As usual, bit more info needed from the OP but so far it sounds like the dealer is fobbing them off.