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Trying to freeze utility prices - can a labour supporter please explain how?
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The problem with a barrage is that it would drastically alter the behaviour of the tidal streams, and would destroy all sorts of habitats and eco-systems....
The problem with the Severn Barrage is that no one has yet come up with a proposal that actually makes commercial sense. The most recent plan promoted by Hafren Power is now regarded as being "dead in the water" for that precise reason.0 -
I will say I do wonder with wind and tidal, to move the turbines they are taking energy out of the wind/water, in both cases the result the strength of current after said device is weakened.
Now its not enough to stop the currents, but what if they where everywhere, at some point it will have an impact.
Why don't people accept nuclear is the way forward.
tides are largely caused by the gravitational pull of the moon: the moon is currently slowing spiralling away from us which reduce the gravitational pull
winds are largely caused by the rotation of the earth which is slowing down
we have some years yet before either effect will affect us0 -
I have a great idea. If, as they say, the earth is getting warmer as a result of man's activities, then let's just carry on doing what we are doing - but accelerate it. If it's warmer, we need less heat, and we can get more efficient and cheaper solar power......
.. large gin & tonics all round....0 -
tides are largely caused by the gravitational pull of the moon: the moon is currently slowing spiralling away from us which reduce the gravitational pull
winds are largely caused by the rotation of the earth which is slowing down
we have some years yet before either effect will affect us
By all means I agree, it would take a lot for actually make an impact, but there would be small impacts first, less fish/corals in the sea, less birds in the sky.
Don't take this as I am against such energy, its just not ready to power this country at the level we need.Have my first business premises (+4th business) 01/11/2017
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Given that the current warming is threatening to release methane from the Siberian permafrost - a gas which has about 20 to 25 times more 'warming' power than CO2, I think we are very near a period of global warming acceleration.Loughton_Monkey wrote: »I have a great idea. If, as they say, the earth is getting warmer as a result of man's activities, then let's just carry on doing what we are doing - but accelerate it. If it's warmer, we need less heat, and we can get more efficient and cheaper solar power......
.. large gin & tonics all round....0 -
A good plan. What shall we do with the population of Bangladesh and other low-lying countries that will be submerged? Do you think that those in Dallas, Bombay and Brasilia might be annoyed at their higher air conditioning bills?Loughton_Monkey wrote: »I have a great idea. If, as they say, the earth is getting warmer as a result of man's activities, then let's just carry on doing what we are doing - but accelerate it. If it's warmer, we need less heat, and we can get more efficient and cheaper solar power......0 -
By all means I agree, it would take a lot for actually make an impact, but there would be small impacts first, less fish/corals in the sea, less birds in the sky.
Don't take this as I am against such energy, its just not ready to power this country at the level we need.
Zillions of wind turbines all facing west on Europe/Scandinavia would surely have some effect however minimal."If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
I will say I do wonder with wind and tidal, to move the turbines they are taking energy out of the wind/water, in both cases the result the strength of current after said device is weakened.
Now its not enough to stop the currents, but what if they where everywhere, at some point it will have an impact.
Why don't people accept nuclear is the way forward.
In the days of watermills, there was a limit to the number of mills which any given river would be able to support, and there would need to be similar calculations before anybody were to install huge numbers of wind/tide generators in close proximity to each other.
The objection to nuclear, so far as I know, is the risk of radio-active Armageddon. But we have already survived two major melt-downs (Chernobyl and Japan), and hopefully lessons have been learned. I seem to remember that the UK national grid sometimes takes its supply from France (which is hugely dependent upon nuclear).
Nuclear brinkmanship is probably no more dangerous than climate change brinkmanship.
TruckerTAccording to Clapton, I am a totally ignorant idiot.0 -
The objection to nuclear, so far as I know, is the risk of radio-active Armageddon. But we have already survived two major melt-downs (Chernobyl and Japan), and hopefully lessons have been learned. I seem to remember that the UK national grid sometimes takes its supply from France (which is hugely dependent upon nuclear).
Nuclear brinkmanship is probably no more dangerous than climate change brinkmanship.
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Germany has renounced nuclear and will presumably start to wind down it's plants as and when they become end of life if not before.
Will they continue to buy nuclear generated energy from their neighbours? Same goes for Italy.
Shame France appears to revel in nuclear and happens to be to the west of them. Any fallout will predominately travel west with the prevailing winds."If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
Lets be honest Chernobyl was doen to user error and no containment structure.
Japan was down to 2 big natural disasters happening at the same time.
Neither of these problems would effect nuclear power here.
In many respects nuclear causes no global warming... unless they all blew up I suppose.Have my first business premises (+4th business) 01/11/2017
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Son born 13/09/2015
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