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"finding a joist" in ceiling

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  • SailorSam
    SailorSam Posts: 22,754 Forumite
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    xyz123 wrote: »

    If I can't find or am not sure of a joist in central rose, are there any special fittings that can possibly be used to fix to floorboard rather than joist. Ta

    The only special fittings i think of, you can get 'screws' that go into plasterboard that have a sort of 'butterfly' on. They'd go through any hole you drilled flat, then 'cos they have a sort of spring on them they open up like a butterfly. This helps to spread the weight.
    http://www.screwfix.com/p/fischer-spring-toggle-3-x-50mm-pack-of-20/34386
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  • If you switch the electricity off at the consumer unit / fuse box, and unscrew the pendant cover, you should be able to see what the other part of the pendant is attached to - it may well be a joist.
    "You were only supposed to blow the bl**dy doors off!!"
  • plumb1_2
    plumb1_2 Posts: 4,395 Forumite
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    jc808 wrote: »
    get some1 else in to do it


    Don't get Delboy Electrics to fit a chandelier:D:D:D
  • keystone
    keystone Posts: 10,916 Forumite
    plumb1 wrote: »
    Don't get Delboy Electrics to fit a chandelier:D:D:D
    :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

    DelBoyChandelierBBC_468x351.jpg

    Brilliant classic piece of comedy.

    Cheers
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  • Avoriaz
    Avoriaz Posts: 39,110 Forumite
    ...If you remove the existing, add prod around with a spike keeping within the base footprint of the new fitting, you should be able to determine which way the joist runs and how to orientate the base plate. .
    Make sure that the power or light switch is turned off and that you don't puncture the cables.

    Use an insulated spike if you can.
  • xyz123
    xyz123 Posts: 1,671 Forumite
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    Thanks for replies. I dont intend to do it personally but i at least need to find out if its doable before i call in an electrician, who may charge call out fee!

    Previous owner had fixed his similar design light fittins but the screw positions mentioned earlier by one of the posters dont tie with the ones needed with new fitting we have bought.

    The fitting weighs about 4 kg.
  • cyclonebri1
    cyclonebri1 Posts: 12,827 Forumite
    Avoriaz wrote: »
    Make sure that the power or light switch is turned off and that you don't puncture the cables.

    Use an insulated spike if you can.

    :T

    Good call:T, should have said;)
    I like the thanks button, but ,please, an I agree button.

    Will the grammar and spelling police respect I do make grammatical errors, and have carp spelling, no need to remind me.;)

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  • cyclonebri1
    cyclonebri1 Posts: 12,827 Forumite
    xyz123 wrote: »
    Thanks for replies. I dont intend to do it personally but i at least need to find out if its doable before i call in an electrician, who may charge call out fee!

    Previous owner had fixed his similar design light fittins but the screw positions mentioned earlier by one of the posters dont tie with the ones needed with new fitting we have bought.

    The fitting weighs about 4 kg.

    No, but his point was (I assume), that it shows you where the joist likely lies.ie, the new ones should/will lie on that same centre line.
    I like the thanks button, but ,please, an I agree button.

    Will the grammar and spelling police respect I do make grammatical errors, and have carp spelling, no need to remind me.;)

    Always expect the unexpected:eek:and then you won't be dissapointed
  • How old is the house?

    Can it be latt & plaster?
  • How old is the house?

    Can it be latt & plaster?

    Could be, but however old the house, it will have joists !

    (BTW they will always run at right angles to the floorboards in the room above.)
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