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  • kurgon
    kurgon Posts: 877 Forumite
    As atroll nurse you should be able to answer your own questions, including the issues about required medication reviews every 12 months. You should also have a good working knowledge of information governance as this has also been a required component of nurse training and yearly updates since the caldicott review.
  • soniason123
    soniason123 Posts: 14 Forumite
    edited 16 September 2013 at 7:54PM
    kurgon wrote: »
    As atroll nurse
    No idea what this means
    you should be able to answer your own questions,
    If I could I would not have asked
    including the issues about required medication reviews every 12 months.
    Never had a query on this, only who I should report this breach of Data protection to outside the DWP
    You should also have a good working knowledge of information governance as this has also been a required component of nurse training and yearly updates since the caldicott review.
    The review was only relevant in England and Wales and I have not been nursing since 1992 anyway, so would not be relevant.

    But thank you for your comments anyway.
  • HB58
    HB58 Posts: 1,787 Forumite
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    You could try complaining to your MP. Some are very good, others less so.
  • Poppie68
    Poppie68 Posts: 4,881 Forumite
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    It should be compulsory for GP reports to be obtained when DLA is claimed, as gayleanne so nicely put it:rotfl:proof needs to be sought and not just on the word of a claimant.
    Also OP i'm sorry but ex nurse or not you should still be seeing your GP on a regular basis for him to monitor your condition and medication, shame on them...but it's been 21 years since you worked as a nurse and i find it strange a GP would keep giving you medication without a regular checkup.

    Anyway the DWP will now have a GP report that should confirm the condition you are claiming for, so that can't be a bad thing can it?
  • soniason123
    soniason123 Posts: 14 Forumite
    edited 17 September 2013 at 12:10AM
    Poppie68 wrote: »
    as gayleanne so nicely put it:rotfl:

    and this was rude and uncalled for.
  • Poppie68 wrote: »
    It should be compulsory for GP reports to be obtained when DLA is claimed, as gayleanne so nicely put it:rotfl:proof needs to be sought and not just on the word of a claimant.
    Also OP i'm sorry but ex nurse or not you should still be seeing your GP on a regular basis for him to monitor your condition and medication, shame on them...but it's been 21 years since you worked as a nurse and i find it strange a GP would keep giving you medication without a regular checkup.

    Anyway the DWP will now have a GP report that should confirm the condition you are claiming for, so that can't be a bad thing can it?

    It may be something that comes into force but as it is just now it is not compulsory.
    My query was not whether I see my GP often enough or whether you should or should not give permission for the DWP consent for a GP report.
    It is the fact I said no and they did it anyway. I wanted to know if there was anywhere outside DWP to complain to.
  • dori2o
    dori2o Posts: 8,150 Forumite
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    It may be something that comes into force but as it is just now it is not compulsory.
    My query was not whether I see my GP often enough or whether you should or should not give permission for the DWP consent for a GP report.
    It is the fact I said no and they did it anyway. I wanted to know if there was anywhere outside DWP to complain to.
    The simple answer is NO. At least not until you have exhausted the DWP's own complaints procedures. At which point you can make a representation to the Independent Case Examiner (http://www.ind-case-exam.org.uk/).
    The Independent Case Examiner's purpose is to act as an independent referee for people who feel that the following Government Agencies or Businesses have not treated them fairly or have not dealt with complaints in a satisfactory manner. The Agencies/Businesses are:
    • the Child Support Agency
    • Debt Management
    • Pension, Disability and Carers Service
    • the Financial Assistance Scheme
    • Jobcentre Plus (including most Work Provider services)
    • Child Maintenance and Enforcement Division (Northern Ireland)
    • the Northern Ireland Social Security Agency
    • Independent Living Fund
    Complainants can approach the Independent Case Examiner's office after they have received a final response to their complaint from the Agency/Business, which they consider to be unsatisfactory. This response must signpost complainants to this office.
    It does not cost you anything to make a complaint to the Independent Case Examiner, and the service is open for anyone to use. You should not need to employ professional or other representatives to help you, but you can do so if you want, at your own expense. We are happy to deal with your professional or personal representatives when asked, but we would not usually ask the Agency or Business to pay their fees or other expenses
    Joanna Wallace is the Independent Case Examiner (ICE). Her role is to examine complaints made about these Agencies/Businesses, by service users. Joanna Wallace is not a Civil Servant and is not part of the management of any of the Agencies/Businesses. The service provided by her office is free to complainants.
    Her career focus has been in health care management working in the UK, US and Europe, although she has also held various non executive roles in the higher and further education and enterprise sectors. She also spent three years as a lay member of the national Sentencing Advisory Panel contributing to setting the guideline tariffs for crimes. Over the last 15 years she has been leading both public and private sector businesses in the UK and has throughout that time been closely involved in and responsible for the resolution of complex issues.
    Judging the issues without taking sides

    The Independent Case Examiner aims to make a difference to the lives of individuals through the fair examination of their complaints by acting as a catalyst for change to improve the customer service of the Agencies/Businesses with which we are associated.
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  • dori2o
    dori2o Posts: 8,150 Forumite
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    Poppie68 wrote: »
    It should be compulsory for GP reports to be obtained when DLA is claimed, as gayleanne so nicely put it:rotfl:proof needs to be sought and not just on the word of a claimant.
    Also OP i'm sorry but ex nurse or not you should still be seeing your GP on a regular basis for him to monitor your condition and medication, shame on them...but it's been 21 years since you worked as a nurse and i find it strange a GP would keep giving you medication without a regular checkup.

    Anyway the DWP will now have a GP report that should confirm the condition you are claiming for, so that can't be a bad thing can it?
    Whilst I think you are right in that medical repots should be a compulsory part of the process, I see no reason why it must be a GP's report.

    it should be down to the individual claimant to decide which is the most beneficial person to provide the report. As explained my GP, possibly through ignorance, knows very little about my condition, and other than signing prescriptions he has nothing to do with my condition. All of my meds are set by the pain clinic, all of my treatment is set by the pain clinic, and despite seeing him every 8 weeks or so he's nothing more than a middle man as it currently stands.

    The form should ask for permission to send a report to the most qualified person to provide information on the disability/condition, and only if that person refuses/fails to complete the form should the GP be contacted.
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  • Poppie68
    Poppie68 Posts: 4,881 Forumite
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    Poppie68 wrote: »
    as gayleanne so nicely put it:rotfl:

    and this was rude and uncalled for.


    What was rude and uncalled for...?
    You seem to think i am having a dig at you!
  • Poppie68
    Poppie68 Posts: 4,881 Forumite
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    dori2o wrote: »
    Whilst I think you are right in that medical repots should be a compulsory part of the process, I see no reason why it must be a GP's report.

    it should be down to the individual claimant to decide which is the most beneficial person to provide the report. As explained my GP, possibly through ignorance, knows very little about my condition, and other than signing prescriptions he has nothing to do with my condition. All of my meds are set by the pain clinic, all of my treatment is set by the pain clinic, and despite seeing him every 8 weeks or so he's nothing more than a middle man as it currently stands.

    The form should ask for permission to send a report to the most qualified person to provide information on the disability/condition, and only if that person refuses/fails to complete the form should the GP be contacted.


    I agree that the GP is not always the correct health care professional to contact in some cases.

    Sometimes though they can be the best source of information. My GP has a copy of all hospital reports ( i am under 4 different consultants and departments) plus i do see him regulary.
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