Automatic Number Plate Readers in Car Parks

TomWantsToGoTraveling

I got a FPN for staying in a car park where I waited for 30 mins without purchasing a ticket. As I was in the car at all times, I did not see the need to purchase a ticket. However due to the automatic Number plate readers, I have been sent a FPN despite my protests.

Apart from my wife as a witness, how else can I provide "further evidence" that the car was occupied? CCTV?

They could argue that I was using a space, but the car park was empty as it was the end of the day, but I always thought that a car has to be left unattended for it to be parked.

spacey2012

WHO has sent you one.

esmerobbo

You have posted this here!

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4763600

Hovite_2

A car is parked if it is stationary whether you're in it or not.

Regardless, who has sent you the FPN ?

TomWantsToGoTraveling

The PCN was sent by Parking Eye Car Park Management

I am surprised about the response about the car being parked if it is occupied or not - however if you advise that this is irrelevant, then I heed your advice. In a previous letter I did not say who the driver was.

I will read up on the POPLA appeals but I doubt I will be able to find anything about picking people up from Parking Eye owed beach carparks!

BTW, Ive been rubbish and posted this thread twice.

esmerobbo

TomWantsToGoTraveling wrote: »

It was sent by Parking Eye Car Park Management

It is not then an FPN it is a parking charge, did you appeal to Parking eye and did they refuse your appeal?

Did they send you a POPLA code to appeal to them?

Edit: Confused now are you saying this is a council owned car park run by Parking eye?

TomWantsToGoTraveling

Ok - to clarify. It was not an FPN that I recieved, but a PCN.
I did appeal, but it was not the POPLA code that I sent. this I will do today.

I do not know who runs the car park - I looked it up on the web to see who owns it, but all I can find is planning permission by Parking Eye to install cameras

Therefore I assumed that it is a council car park run by Parking Eye

zzzLazyDaisy

TomWantsToGoTraveling wrote: »

I will read up on the POPLA appeals but I doubt I will be able to find anything about picking people up from Parking Eye owed beach carparks!

Fistral Beach by any chance?

There are plenty of threads about parking charges levied by PE in beach car parks you just have to look for them.

Please also pm a board guide and ask for your threads to be merged.

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TomWantsToGoTraveling

No this is Porth Ceriad beach in North Wales - however you are right - I will have a search

AnnieO1234

I will never understand why anyone believes that staying in their car means yet haven't parked.

Not will I ever understand the car park was almost empty argument, in my mind it's like taking something from a supermarket shelf and saying "I didn't pay cause there were loads left".

TomWantsToGoTraveling

Your right that about the logic "the car park is almost empty" is mental as it doesnt matter if the car park is full or empty, you are still using it.

However I disagree about a car being occupied being not not parked as they can be waiting afterall you can wait on a yellow line. I had a look on the Gov.uk website and under rule 239, amonst other things

• you MUST switch off the engine, headlights and fog lights
• you MUST apply the handbrake before leaving the vehicle
• you MUST ensure you do not hit anyone when you open your door.
  
  Now I didnt hit anyone with the door, but the engine was still on when I was waiting, but this is impossible to prove - am I still living in cuckoo land?