Tenants from Hell Protected by (disgusting) law

Voyager2002

jules888 wrote: »

I was a landlady with my parents house 25 years ago because i couldnt sell it.Was a lot less complicated then.I would never want to do it now.

Actually, it is a lot easier for landlords now than it used to be. The problem is that people who would never have thought of becoming a landlord back then are now getting involved, and are paying the price for their own lack of professionalism.

Yorkie1

Blackpool_Saver wrote: »

Leaving this thread as so many people are full of rage and fury in their answers. If you could see them in person they would have wide glaring murderous expressions and be in your face full of hate. I don't need that crap in my life......see ya

I am not raging, furious, murderous or hate-filled. GBBO is on, which is impossible to watch with such emotions

The OP came on here with such emotions triggered by unrighteous indignation on behalf of their friend, who appears to have completely failed to understand what the laws relating to being a LL involve and/or to apply them.

mchale

sarah_id1 wrote: »

What's the advise for the potential Landlords in this situation?

Always obtain a guarantor, and when you have vacant possession of property pursue tenant through the courts for ALL costs incurred, granted it will take time and costs awarded will be paid back at a paltry rate but in the end you will have won.

Werdnal

Yorkie1 wrote: »

I am not raging, furious, murderous or hate-filled. GBBO is on, which is impossible to watch with such emotions

The OP came on here with such emotions triggered by unrighteous indignation on behalf of their friend, who appears to have completely failed to understand what the laws relating to being a LL involve and/or to apply them.

ITA - In fact I suggest OP started this emotional turmoil with their totally OTT thread title!

"Tenants from Hell", you ain't seen nothing yet ... cannabis farms, tenants who sublet to numerous illegal immigrants, keep pets who urinate and defecate everywhere in the property or those with a tumultuous personal lives which leads to holes punched in doors and walls, and police being called at all hours of the day and night by neighbours who fear for their own safety - now that's Tenants from Hell ....

Perhaps this thread should be retitled "The perils of a naive newbie LL who hasn't done enough research", and everyone might chill a bit.

Yes, tenants here have caused the LL some grief, but I hardly think it is by choice. LL however, should have acted quicker and taken advice sooner, on how to deal with situation and resolve it. The LL chose to rent their property, and the onus was on them to ensure they fully understood all aspects of the rental business, including all the risks involved.

Tancred

sarah_id1 wrote: »

Just talking to my office colleague who had a bad experience with her tenant. Long story short

>Rented a flat for £1000 via a agent to a professional working for a good company and good credit history on 12 month contract
>3rd and 4th month tenant didn't pay rent as he got injured
>5th month landlord gave notice to vacate, tenant paid rent with arrears
>6th month onwards he lost his job due to long term injury and he notified the council who agreed to pay £71 a week for housing benefit which was not enough to cover the mortgage. No rent since this month....
>10th month gave notice but tenant just does not vacate.
>Landlord Issued Section 21 with a notice of 2 month but tenant not moving
>Court Order..... Baliff to follow

Blockers
>Tenant cannot be vacated because he lost his job and he's injured
>Council wont pay to cover the rent because hes eligible for £71 per week.
>Landlord have to still pay the mortgage otherwise property repossession etc....

All in all landlord has lost 8K in rent apart of other fees in legal/admin/baliff... Why should the landlord such a BIG loss? a loss of 1 or 2 month rent would be tolerated. Also what if the landlord lost her job in this scenario and cannot afford to pay rent! she still have to be homeless in spite of owning a property captured by a horrible tenant "PROTECTED" by the law. This is disgusting and oppressive law!

What's the advise for the potential Landlords in this situation?

This is why you should always take full references before taking on a tenant. I would also avoid accepting anyone who wasn't a professional or least white collar worker.

Tancred

Voyager2002 wrote: »

Actually, it is a lot easier for landlords now than it used to be. The problem is that people who would never have thought of becoming a landlord back then are now getting involved, and are paying the price for their own lack of professionalism.

Very true. Too many landlords are plainly greedy but aren't overburdened with high intellect.

A landlord needs to bear in mind that a tenant is a human being, not merely an automatic cash cow. Human beings are prone to illness, insanity, unemployment and various other things. This is why you need to research a potential tenant thoroughly before considering him/her. It might cost a bit but it will save you a lot of hassle in the long term. Once you weed out the potential troublemakers then you can go for the best people.

Thrugelmir

Tancred wrote: »

Once you weed out the potential troublemakers then you can go for the best people.

There's never no risk though. As you say tenants are humans.

Dan-Dan

Blackpool_Saver wrote: »

Leaving this thread as so many people are full of rage and fury in their answers. If you could see them in person they would have wide glaring murderous expressions and be in your face full of hate. I don't need that crap in my life......see ya

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:


Ok , see yer

Werdnal

Tancred wrote: »

This is why you should always take full references before taking on a tenant. I would also avoid accepting anyone who wasn't a professional or least white collar worker.

Even the best referenced, highest earning, gilt edged tenants can have a change of fortune at any time. Being a professional, white collar worker does not make you some form of super human, immune to accident, illness or any other random issues which can suddenly turn your life upside down, remove your income or ability to work and leave you struggling financially.

Nothing the LL (or tenant for that matter) can do to prevent !!!! happening from time to time ... that's life!

LaVerdad

Blackpool_Saver wrote: »

Hmm, seem there is no safe way to be an LL, these days

And why should there be a 'safe way' to be a landlord? Should there be a 'safe way' to invest in the stock market, or business start-ups? £££ if the investment turns good, taxpayer makes up the difference if it doesn't.