Moving from London to Manchester?

timez_2
timez_2 Posts: 47 Forumite
edited 7 September 2013 at 5:41PM in Benefits & tax credits
Hi,

I currentlly live with my mum, I get carers allowence and income support.

I have fallen in love with my girlfriend but she lives all the way in Manchester (Denton)

Is there any way I could move there without going into a B+B first, Without having to save up the money to private rent? (I have had very bad experiences with B+Bs as I cannot defend myself agaisnt people (I have undiagnosed <something> (I dont know what the something is) - and people just end up stealing my things or taking advantage of me as i cannot defend myself agaisnt verbal / Physcal attacks)

I will save up the money if i have to but I really wanted to move there ASAP as the distance is killing me now :(

I also have no idea how much I would need to save or how to even go about moving like that.

Would the CAB be able to do anything for me?

Anywhere else?

As i say if the only way is to save up the money to private rent I will do so - but I wish i could just be there now somehow.

(I also know the carers allowence will stop and IS will change to JSA (or whatever it is now)

I have a guy who works for CAB who has helped me get a B+B while the council decides if they can house me or not. but thats always been london to london and don't know if they can help out with such a long distance move.

I have no job atm - and I will be looking for a job once i move to Manchester.

At the moment I feel pretty stuck though as it will take a long time to save up enough to private rent (and then have HB / UC help me out until i find a job there)

I just want to be with my GF so much and I dont know if theres any way to speed up the process or how much to save.

I dont intend to stay on benifets once im there as I want her to have a good life and not be on benifets.

Any advice would be most welcome!

Thank you.

Timez
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  • bloolagoon
    bloolagoon Posts: 7,973 Forumite
    Who is going to look after your mother?
    Tomorrow is the most important thing in life
  • pmlindyloo
    pmlindyloo Posts: 13,086 Forumite
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    I can remember what love is (LOL) and totally understand where you are coming from.

    Have you discussed this with your girlfriend? Where is she living at the moment? Would you be able to move in with her?

    Would she help you find somewhere to lodge (probably wouldn't need to find a huge deposit/letting agent's fees etc if you did this.

    I have had the experience of moving to the same place as someone I really thought was 'The One' only to find that they didn't share my view! Whoops!

    If your girlfriend is totally on board with this then enlist her help and support.
  • timez_2
    timez_2 Posts: 47 Forumite
    My mother has friends who will look after her but they say they wont do so until it comes to it.

    She lives with her parents atm and they wont let me stay there no.

    I dont know what you mean by "lodge" but I cannot live with anyone else in a shared house due to my anxity problems from past experiences.

    my girlfriend unfortantlly is stuck as well atm and the long term goal was to have her move in with me.

    Which is also why it needs to be a flat or something with just me in it.

    She wants this as well but I know more about it than she does - which atm is not much!

    Would the CAB be able to help me private rent if i have to? - As i say i will do that if i have to - but no idea how much id need to save - or what the process would be at all.

    Timez
  • nannytone_2
    nannytone_2 Posts: 12,984 Forumite
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    how old are you?
    if you are under 35 you would anlo be entitled to the shared accomodation rate of LKA, so a 1 bed place would ot be viable if your only income will be JSA.
    you really need to plan before you move as you could find yourself in a horrible situation
  • Dunroamin
    Dunroamin Posts: 16,908 Forumite
    Wouldn't it make more sense for your girlfriend to move to London where she'll have somewhere to live, more chance of getting a job and you'll be able to carry on looking after your mother?
  • pmlindyloo
    pmlindyloo Posts: 13,086 Forumite
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    CAB will not be able to find you somewhere to rent privately. They will make suggestions as to where to look for private accommodation but they have no influence over getting landlords to rent to you.

    As Nannytone says this will be extremely difficult.

    If you are under 35 yrs of age you would only be entitled to the local housing allowance of the shared house rate. You would not be able to afford a one bed place (and 'top up' the rent yourself) if you only had your JSA. Plus many landlords will not rent to people on JSA without a guarantor.

    Is your girlfriend working? If she is then you may be able to get a one bed place together if she can afford the rent and all the bills etc.
    As soon as you move in together all benefits will be based on the household income.

    So, get a job now - you can earn up to £100 per week and you can still keep your Carer's Allowance (you would lose the Income Support)

    Save as much as you can. You will need a month's rent in advance and a month's rent as deposit.

    Then when you have some money behind you need to find a job in Manchester first and then make your move.
  • Caz3121
    Caz3121 Posts: 15,808 Forumite
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    LHA for Denton unless you are over 35 would be £250 per month, anything additional to that would need to come out of your JSA
    Have you looked at what a property would cost to rent?
  • you could always wait until you have a job before you move.

    Also wouldn't it make more sense to get a flat with your g/f if you don't want to go into a flatshare. You won't get enough to rent your own flat. Does she work? If not you could make a joint claim and get a bit more
  • Caz3121 wrote: »
    LHA for Denton unless you are over 35 would be £250 per month, anything additional to that would need to come out of your JSA
    Have you looked at what a property would cost to rent?

    The SRR rate for Denton is £261 per month

    If the O/P claimed with his partner as a couple then the LHA rate would change to the 1 bedroom rate of £434.37 per month.

    http://www.tameside.gov.uk/benefits/localallowance
    These are my own views and you should seek advice from your local Benefits Department or CAB.
  • It is very very rare for any local authority to recommend any private rented property unless they have carried out a full check in advance.

    A few years ago a claimant successfully sued a Local Authority for damages after their Housing Benefit Department gave a claimant a list of landlords that took Housing Benefit claimants. Shortly after he moved in the property caught fire and he suffered burns. The property had no recent checks on the wiring and no smoke alarms.

    He successfully argued in Court that the Local Authority was responsible for providing the landlords name and address without first checking that the homes the landlords was offering were fit and safe to live in.

    After this local authorities refused to point claimants to landlords unless they had already checked out the property in advance.
    These are my own views and you should seek advice from your local Benefits Department or CAB.
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