Completion of the SDLT Return

Paully232000

G_M wrote: »

And if I could see your quote I'd be able to tell you how it describes completion of the SDLT form, but I can't, so all I can do is ask you what your quote says...

Fair point. All it says as part of the quote for this is
SDLT return fee £8.40

Just thought as it sounds like the thing you are all talking about, sounds very cheap in comparison to £75, £90.

sinbad182

JWhite wrote: »

Oh, you mean like buying a sofa with one arm missing :rotfl:

Very funny ! I get so sick of professional people trying to bump up the price by "breaking the service into parts" to get them extra so they don't have to show the cost "up front" !. If I wanted to be a bloody solicitor I would have gone to uni to do that, I instead worked as a secretary which I spent 3 years at college to train for. Should I have been telling my employer when he froze my salary that as I couldn't get a rise in salary i was only going to do half my job and he could pick up the post from reception himself and make his own tea !!! This country is a bloody joke. :mad:

Jesus Christ, some serious toys thrown out of the pram over a complete non issue!

Either pay the solicitor the prescribed rate for them to complete SD return, or don't pay and accept you'll be doing it without solicitors help.

Stamping your feet like a petulant child and conplaining about the country being a joke (as if this is anyway relevant to your trivial complaint) won't get you anywhere.

kingstreet

... or find one of the many solicitors who include completion of SDLT return (and acting for mortgage lender) in their headline fee as I said in the other thread about this the other day.

Leodogger

rpc wrote: »

And where do you think this started? It's because the customers prioritise cost above all else and will choose the £450 quote over the £500 quote regardless of extras. In order to participate in this "fight to the bottom" anything that can be stripped out of the cost is taken out. If you don't join in (and your core market is very price-sensitive) then you lose business.

Yes I could agree with that if all quotes were set out exactly the same. Solicitors are becoming like "no frill" airlines, the upfront price you see bears no resemblance to what you are actually paying at the end and you can't compare prices between different quotes because no two prices are for the same thing i.e. some include SDLT, some don't, some lump all searches together, some quote separately, etc. etc. This is why people get peed off when the price they think they are paying for a complete service turns out to be only part of it !

At the end of the day, I cannot buy a house over £125000 without paying SDLT as it forms part of the transaction, therefore ALL solicitors should include it as standard. :mad:

TopQuark

Always aim to get the lowest possible price, be that solicitors or otherwise;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xW4WHckzaR0

G_M

Paully232000 wrote: »

Fair point. All it says as part of the quote for this is
SDLT return fee £8.40

Just thought as it sounds like the thing you are all talking about, sounds very cheap in comparison to £75, £90.

This appears to be what we are discussing in this thread. And yes, bizarly cheap.

As has been said, decent solicitors include this work in their basic fee - they do not charge sepeartely or extra, they just do the work as it is part of the conveyancing process.

Others make it an optional extra, thereby

a) helping them reduce their headline fee, to attract clients, and
b) giving their clients the choice: DIY or pay the extra fee

In your case, the nominal nature of the 'extra' fee is strange; Insufficient to impact on the basic fee enough to atract more clients, yet annoying as an add-on.

For £8.40 (+ VAT?) it is definately not worth DIY.

Leodogger

sinbad182 wrote: »

Jesus Christ, some serious toys thrown out of the pram over a complete non issue!

Either pay the solicitor the prescribed rate for them to complete SD return, or don't pay and accept you'll be doing it without solicitors help.

Stamping your feet like a petulant child and conplaining about the country being a joke (as if this is anyway relevant to your trivial complaint) won't get you anywhere.

Sorry if it upsets your fine sensibilities but some people like us (old fogies) remember the days when people were bloody honest and didn't try to screw you over for every penny, besides £75 is a fortune to people like us who are living on a state pension. These firms love people like you who pay up and shut up no matter what they charge !

If they want a fee for doing the WHOLE job then why not say so. This is the very reason people refuse to fly with that robbing so and so Michael O'Leary when he keeps charging you for every tiny part of the "getting you from A to B" on a plane and having the audacity to want to charge you for going to the loo whilst travelling (if he could have got away with it!).

It is time people started shouting about these type of things like the Americans do and not sit meekly by and put up with things they feel are bang out of order.

Rant over !

sinbad182

JWhite wrote: »

Sorry if it upsets your fine sensibilities but some people like us (old fogies) remember the days when people were bloody honest and didn't try to screw you over for every penny, besides £75 is a fortune to people like us who are living on a state pension. These firms love people like you who pay up and shut up no matter what they charge !

If they want a fee for doing the WHOLE job then why not say so. This is the very reason people refuse to fly with that robbing so and so Michael O'Leary when he keeps charging you for every tiny part of the "getting you from A to B" on a plane and having the audacity to want to charge you for going to the loo whilst travelling (if he could have got away with it!).

It is time people started shouting about these type of things like the Americans do and not sit meekly by and put up with things they feel are bang out of order.

Rant over !

Like the Americans do?!

Have you ever lived in the US? Obviously not if you're holding the place up as a bastion of fair business practices and an ethical approach towards consumers!

You're almost right in your statement of 'Put up and Shut up'. What you should actually do is put up OR shut up. I assume you can read and have basic reasoning skills - for that reason you should be capable of seeing that your solicitor wants to charge you 70 quid extra for doing the SD form, and then making the decision to either pay it and have them do the task, or dont pay it, shut up, and do it yourself. The Ryanair analogy is the same, all the costs are there to see before commiting to purchasing tickets - no-one is forcing you to buy them if you think the add ons are unfair, and there are other options if this is the case.

You're stamping your feet like a spoilt brat and making out this is a unique occurence to this country and this day+age because of a minor inconvenience and dodgy bit of marketing by your solicitor. You'd still be paying the £70 if they lumped it in with the advertised fee, and if the way they've listed it as an extra offends you that much, dont pay it. Simple as that.

G_M

JWhite wrote: »

It is time people started shouting about these type of things like the Americans do and not sit meekly by and put up with things they feel are bang out of order.

Rant over !

Have you eaten in an American restaurant?

You pay the bill that is presented to you, based on the menu prices, and then.....

god help you ifyou fail to 'tip'.

It's not unknown for waiters to chase after you in the street because you left the bill money on the table but no tip!

I actually sympathise with your basic argument. I too hate the hidden nature of these conveyancing extras. But don't hold America up as a model......!

Leodogger

sinbad182 wrote: »

Like the Americans do?!

Have you ever lived in the US? Obviously not if you're holding the place up as a bastion of fair business practices and an ethical approach towards consumers!

You're almost right in your statement of 'Put up and Shut up'. What you should actually do is put up OR shut up. I assume you can read and have basic reasoning skills - for that reason you should be capable of seeing that your solicitor wants to charge you 70 quid extra for doing the SD form, and then making the decision to either pay it and have them do the task, or dont pay it, shut up, and do it yourself. The Ryanair analogy is the same, all the costs are there to see before commiting to purchasing tickets - no-one is forcing you to buy them if you think the add ons are unfair, and there are other options if this is the case.

You're stamping your feet like a spoilt brat and making out this is a unique occurence to this country and this day+age because of a minor inconvenience and dodgy bit of marketing by your solicitor. You'd still be paying the £70 if they lumped it in with the advertised fee, and if the way they've listed it as an extra offends you that much, dont pay it. Simple as that.

Well as it so happens I am not paying it and as for my reference to the Americans, what I meant was they DO complain and don't put up with things they don't like, unlike us humble uncomplaining British who are afraid of our own shadows (not me I hasten to add!). When you get to retirement and living on a shoestring I will come back and ask you how you feel about people who deviously try to charge you extra for something you have to have but they don't want to do without charging more for it !! I think you will find that you have changed your tune