MSE News: eBay sellers beware - its fees now eat into postage costs

lovinituk

I'm glad of the changes. Shake the tree and get rid of the amateur sellers who don't have a clue, leave the place to us professional sellers

10% fee (+ Paypal) for getting put in front of millions of potential customers and people are complaining about that!! It does make me laugh.

lovinituk

cactusroger wrote: »

Ther are very many small, medium and large traders who will not accept this and go elsewhere, especially those who were honest about actual postage and separated it from the cost of the items.

There are plenty of larger sellers who are barely affected by these changes (better off in some cases!), believe me! We're more than happy for the others to go elsewhere - give us an even larger slice of the pie. Thanks very much

Rotti

lovinituk wrote: »

There are plenty of larger sellers who are barely affected by these changes (better off in some cases!), believe me! We're more than happy for the others to go elsewhere - give us an even larger slice of the pie. Thanks very much

Typical of the type of seller that now dominates the online Pound Shop that eBay has become, rather than the community it started out as. What you forget is that if eBay becomes the same as everyone else online people will just not bother looking at it at all.

EBay works the same as most city centres and is going the same way, being dominated by the "big boys" while the smaller more interesting sellers slip slowly away. Smaller sellers tend to sell the quirky and more interesting (and higher quality) items and should not be lumped in with the tacky eBay shops selling cheap tat for £1 or endless recycled printer cartridges/memory cards/batteries and the like. Suggesting that we sell elsewhere is not practical - boot sales are a waste of time as they too have been cheapened over the years so it is pointless trying to sell anything of value there. If you are disabled and trying to make some money to top up or are simply clearing out your excess belongings then eBay is the perfect marketplace - or was. It has evolved into a business forum and the people who made it what it is are being left behind in their race to the bottom.

campdave

I think you're overplaying the role people offloading their old stuff has on the position ebay has today. It only started to take off when it became a viable avenue for business sellers to use.

J45

campdave wrote: »

I think you're overplaying the role people offloading their old stuff has on the position ebay has today. It only started to take off when it became a viable avenue for business sellers to use.

I wonder how much of their revenue comes from china stores and stores who sell the same cheap knockoffs.

lovinituk

Rotti wrote: »

Typical of the type of seller that now dominates the online Pound Shop that eBay has become, rather than the community it started out as. What you forget is that if eBay becomes the same as everyone else online people will just not bother looking at it at all.

EBay works the same as most city centres and is going the same way, being dominated by the "big boys" while the smaller more interesting sellers slip slowly away. Smaller sellers tend to sell the quirky and more interesting (and higher quality) items and should not be lumped in with the tacky eBay shops selling cheap tat for £1 or endless recycled printer cartridges/memory cards/batteries and the like. Suggesting that we sell elsewhere is not practical - boot sales are a waste of time as they too have been cheapened over the years so it is pointless trying to sell anything of value there. If you are disabled and trying to make some money to top up or are simply clearing out your excess belongings then eBay is the perfect marketplace - or was. It has evolved into a business forum and the people who made it what it is are being left behind in their race to the bottom.

You, as are many others, are stuck in the past still wishing that eBay was the happy little quirky place it once was. Things change, particularly where money is involved. eBay doesn't owe anyone anything - they are a business that has grown and adapted to make that growth even stronger. Any business, big or small would (or should!) do the same to the best of their ability. Anyone who can't see that see probably shouldn't be in business to be honest.

lovinituk

J45 wrote: »

I wonder how much of their revenue comes from china stores.

Adapt to it. We import generic goods from China (not fake brands), even brand some of it to our own trademarked labels. We sell it much more expensive that the China sellers on eBay and we outsell them by many thousands.

For every seller that complains about the changes there are many more that adapt and grow stronger.

alreadystung

Lies, lies from Ebay. They say that they charge fees on postage to encourage free postage,the real reason is that in the past the postage element of the money charged to the purchaser was an untapped source of funds that Ebay were missing out on because they could not charge fees on it,it would amount to millions of pounds world wide that Ebay could not get their grubby hands on.
Now with the new rules they cannot lose. If the poor seller adds his postage costs to the price of the item Ebay get additional fees on the amount it has increased by. If the seller carries on and charges seperately he will get charged under the new rules, fantastically brilliant rip off by one of the most greedy organisations I have had the misfortune to deal with.
Ebay treat sellers like what they have just trod on in the street, you cannot easily contact them,they do not make it obvoius where they are in Britain and how to contact them directly if you are unhappy. They collect high fees from listing,final sale fees,final sale fees on postage,Paypal fees,fees for extra photographs etc.
I have never met so many people unhappy with an organisation that they enter a financial transaction with and yet come back for more.Ultimately Ebays greed will bring them down sooner or later,it is not a good business model to engender a feeling of being abused by an organisation you are giving money to to further their wretched existance.

lovinituk

alreadystung wrote: »

Lies, lies from Ebay. They say that they charge fees on postage to encourage free postage,the real reason is that in the past the postage element of the money charged to the purchaser was an untapped source of funds that Ebay were missing out on because they could not charge fees on it,it would amount to millions of pounds world wide that Ebay could not get their grubby hands on.
Now with the new rules they cannot lose. If the poor seller adds his postage costs to the price of the item Ebay get additional fees on the amount it has increased by. If the seller carries on and charges seperately he will get charged under the new rules, fantastically brilliant rip off by one of the most greedy organisations I have had the misfortune to deal with.
Ebay treat sellers like what they have just trod on in the street, you cannot easily contact them,they do not make it obvoius where they are in Britain and how to contact them directly if you are unhappy. They collect high fees from listing,final sale fees,final sale fees on postage,Paypal fees,fees for extra photographs etc.
I have never met so many people unhappy with an organisation that they enter a financial transaction with and yet come back for more.Ultimately Ebays greed will bring them down sooner or later,it is not a good business model to engender a feeling of being abused by an organisation you are giving money to to further their wretched existance.

Seriously, get a grip!

J45

lovinituk wrote: »

Adapt to it. We import generic goods from China (not fake brands), even brand some of it to our own trademarked labels. We sell it much more expensive that the China sellers on eBay and we outsell them by many thousands.

For every seller that complains about the changes there are many more that adapt and grow stronger.

Of course I will have to sell more to compensate eBay smooching more money off me.

Many people will jump ship when eBay finally hits rocky waters, and taking a percentage of peoples postages seems like a desperate move (which they have no right to).

Charge more fees if they want but don't take money that doesn't belong to them.