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Work For The Dole
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ruggedtoast wrote: »Please furnish those of us, who arent privileged to work in a protected industry whose... of your vital contribution to our world.
No, I won't thanks.
II'll send you a picture of my new Ferrari, though, if you like? You can put it on your flat wall, and cheer yourself up a bit.0 -
You don't have a company credit card?
No. I had one briefly, a few years ago, but it was only to be used for booking work travel on (which I'd then claim back later), which is not quite what I think anyone is referring to when they complain about our "expenses".
Our jobs tend to involve sitting in front of computer for twelve hours straight, then going home to sleep, there's really very little entertaining for most of us, and we are banned from accepting any but the most modest entartainment ourselves. Basically anything over £50 in value won't be signed off, so if someone asks us out, it'll normally be a pub, not Le Gavroche.
There are all sorts of people in the square mile who'd appear unaffected by this (hedge fund traders, lawyers, accountants, regulators etc), but in the banks, it's not the done thing, and hasn't been for quite a few years.0 -
No, I won't thanks.
II'll send you a picture of my new Ferrari, though, if you like? You can put it on your flat wall, and cheer yourself up a bit.
No, I'd rather you just answered the question. If you want to continue to further the 'misconception' that bankers are greed obsessed cretins whose profession provides no quantifiable benefit to the human race then just keep typing away though.0 -
No, I asked about the bankers' expenses that you mentioned, not the MP's expenses. Being a reasonably senior banker myself, yet never, ever having come across an "expense account", I was just wondering what you were talking about, and whether you are one of those people who'll have a pop at bankers without really having much of a clue about the subject.
It's surprisingly common...
It was really not intended to be bankers expenses merely poorly articulated, for which I apologise. If you feel the need to defend them it makes one wonder why.
MPSs and Bankers expenses,bonuses,
I have worked in the city and enjoyed the hospitality, credit cards behind the till in pub and restaurants hosted by bankers not screen jockeys. Christmas parties and summer junkets for team bonding were also interesting.
There has no doubt been a degree of belt tightening - not before time.
I am sure that duck houses were never claimed for."If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
Loughton_Monkey wrote: »Those with a bit of nous could do this well.
But I keep thinking about HS2. All the budget over-run. Probably an opportunity there....
How about helping IDS out with UB. Help him to deliver to budget and time, stuff the quality."If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
one way to cut the bill for jsa would be to abolish cont.based jsa in favour of income based jsa from day one,the saving i suspect could be as much as 500,000 x £73 per week0
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one way to cut the bill for jsa would be to abolish cont.based jsa in favour of income based jsa from day one,the saving i suspect could be as much as 500,000 x £73 per week
That much , it would help to pay for the DWP IT system I suppose."If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
grizzly1911 wrote: »How about helping IDS out with UB. Help him to deliver to budget and time, stuff the quality.
All this talk reminds me of the New Deal during the Depression (no I don't remember it personally, though my grandfather lived there then and lived through it).
FDR started all the "Alphabet Agencies" like the TVA (Tenessee Valley Authority) which built dams, power stations and irrigation systems, the (CCC) Civilian Conservation Corps, an army of workers who maintained the environment and which picked pests from trees (and planted 3 billion trees).
This country needs tons doing to it and leaving people idle instead of getting the work done is a waste on so many levelsThere is no honour to be had in not knowing a thing that can be known - Danny Baker0 -
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MacMickster wrote: »Once again, the idea of forcing jobseekers to work in exchange for their benefits has been mooted - this time in a report by the Taxpayers' Alliance.
http://www.taxpayersalliance.com/workforthedole.pdf
Is it not now time to look at this from a different perspective?
My view is that we should scrap Jobseeker's Allowance completely. Instead we should guarantee every adult in the UK who wants it, 12 hours work per week in the public sector paid at the national minimum wage.
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In principle this sounds great in that everyone gets a part time job and its not exploitative since they all get the NMW.
In practice I think it would be quite expensive. For example you are in your second month of unemployment and you get a letter saying what? "Report to your local hospital" perhaps. So you turn up with say 50 others and what happens next? Someone is going to have to give you some basic induction (layout of building, H&S rules, this is your supervisor), then your supervisor will have to allocate you work ( here is a wheelchair, take this patient to Oncology), tell you what to do if things go wrong, check you are trained to do the job (so the patient was hurt because you did not know the wheelchair had a brake?)
My point is that whatever the job it will take the time of permanent staff to manage these conscripts. Of course maybe we should just introduce conscription to the army?Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.0
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