Giving up flat and being No fixed Abode

killswitch73

hi

I'm in a very big pickle .

I have a 1 bedroom council flat in the midlands , my girlfriend who i met through a friend lives in Scotland (225 miles from me)

Im unemployed at the moment and i visit my girlfriend once every 6 weeks for a week.

I drive there and it costs £35 in fuel each way (the reason for every 6 weeks) she then pays to get me back home so we go halves on the fuel)

my girlfriend is also a single parent as she had to give up her job as she had no child care.

now i want to go and live there but we dont want to live together just yet the relationship is in its early days (7 months) and Im thinking of giving up my flat and going up there make a fresh claim (or carry on with same claim) which ever one i have to so .

if we did live together we would also lose a lot of benefit and its not fair on her to lose money after all shes caring for her 3 yr old daughter.

would i be able go and sign on as No Fixed Abode ?

my friend who who introduced me to my girlfriend also lives in the same area .

If i could stay with him would he lose his benefits ?

he is a single dad with 2 lads and he works part time and gets working tax credits , and gets housing benefit and council tax benefit.

hes agreed i can stay there for as long as i like or until i get a job up there and then get my own flat .

me and the girlfriend don't plan on living together for at least a couple of years , as we want our relationship to grow .

I can not use her address as the postal address as she already got called into the office asking if i was living there as when i was up last time someone dobbed her in. she was truthful with them and told them that i had come up there for a week and do so every 6 weeks . and they were fine with this.

would my friend lose any of his benefits if i say i live there , ( i would be using his living room with air mattress)

would there be any kind of checks ?


or would it be best just to say his address as a postal address , as i wouldn't want him either to lose any money .

Im also in a little debt and thus the reason to give up the flat and pay my debts off as finding a job in my area is getting more and more harder.

its also taking its toll with the petrol money there and back and will probably have to sell my car anyway . and no train tickets are even more expensive than petrol so catching the train is not an option.

main reason is i want to be close to my partner and her daughter and clear a little debt off..i would be saving a lot as i wouldn't be paying no gas, electric, TV license, phone line, broadband, water rates ,and of course council tax , yep i have to pay council tax out of my benefit. and it would save a fortune selling the car and saving money on car insurance , tax, MOT bills each year. my car is worth about £2k as bought it while i was working .

Will get another car once on my feet in a job in Scotland.

Looking to move there around late November early December.
thank you all for all the help

CKhalvashi

He'd get a non-dependent deduction, however if you moved in with her, this wouldn't be the case.

Being NFA also wouldn't help if there are any debts (you'll need to give some address) or for job hunting (as we need proof of address, proof of right to work in UK etc).

If you're NFA and have voluntarily surrendered the property, you won't be considered for housing, as you will be classed as intentional homeless.

CK

killswitch73

CKhalvashi wrote: »

He'd get a non-dependent deduction, however if you moved in with her, this wouldn't be the case.

Being NFA also wouldn't help if there are any debts (you'll need to give some address) or for job hunting (as we need proof of address, proof of right to work in UK etc).

If you're NFA and have voluntarily surrendered the property, you won't be considered for housing, as you will be classed as intentional homeless.



CK

If i moved in with her we would lose £120 a month in income support/jobseekers allowance , we would be worse off than what i am now .

what is this none-dependent deduction ? and how much is it ? i could perhaps contribute . also i only thought this happened if i was paying him rent or anything towards bills , i will not , im just a friend living there until i get on my feet. friends do exist lol

surely they cant stop me from being near her, its like saying no you cant you have to find a new girlfriend in your area .

paddedjohn

Dump your bird and stay where you are or move in with her from the start. You are proposing giving up everything to move to be near her but what commitment are you getting from her? Use your head.

killswitch73

paddedjohn wrote: »

Dump your bird and stay where you are or move in with her from the start. You are proposing giving up everything to move to be near her but what commitment are you getting from her? Use your head.

hi

i am using my head, shes already offered to move down here but, it means her daughter dad taking her to court for taking her without consent .

he works to so could easily take us to court and i couldn't do that , i cant take a child from her father !

and no i cant dump the bird !

there is something called love on the planet lol

paddedjohn

killswitch73 wrote: »

hi

i am using my head, shes already offered to move down here but, it means her daughter dad taking her to court for taking her without consent .

he works to so could easily take us to court and i couldn't do that , i cant take a child from her father !

and no i cant dump the bird !

there is something called love on the planet lol

Obviously not here though, if you loved each other you would move in like a shot.

killswitch73

paddedjohn wrote: »

Obviously not here though, if you loved each other you would move in like a shot.

Not at all ! what if it didnt work out ? then where would i be then ? haha no fixed abode .. you my friend have just given me an idea .

paddedjohn

Not trying to put you down or anything mate but you have only known this girl for 7 months and seen her for maybe 5 weeks and you have already said that she wants to wait a couple of years before she commits to you, have you really thought this through?

killswitch73

paddedjohn wrote: »

Not trying to put you down or anything mate but you have only known this girl for 7 months and seen her for maybe 5 weeks, have you really thought this through?

Ive known her for 2 years buddy ..ive been with her for 7 months but that didn't mean i didn't know her before .

and its me who don't want to move in yet , so its me whos not committing, but i am by wanting to move near her. its my idea not to live together buddy not hers .

oh and shes already asked me to marry her , i said yep but in a few years so if thats not commitment from her then what .



by the looks of it if i live with my friend then all i pay is £11.45 a week towards his rent, that's so much better than living together with the girlfriend and losing £30 a week.


oh yea i forgot to mention i hate it where i live , where she lives is so much nicer . even though its rural its nice and people are nice too.

thought newbies get it easy for a while on here lol

and we have just spent 6 weeks down mine together buddy being Scottish school holidays.


this thread is all about me wanting to move there not a detailed relationship status.

Dunroamin

killswitch73 wrote: »

hi

I'm in a very big pickle .

I have a 1 bedroom council flat in the midlands , my girlfriend who i met through a friend lives in Scotland (225 miles from me)

Im unemployed at the moment and i visit my girlfriend once every 6 weeks for a week.

I drive there and it costs £35 in fuel each way (the reason for every 6 weeks) she then pays to get me back home so we go halves on the fuel)

my girlfriend is also a single parent as she had to give up her job as she had no child care.

now i want to go and live there but we dont want to live together just yet the relationship is in its early days (7 months) and Im thinking of giving up my flat and going up there make a fresh claim (or carry on with same claim) which ever one i have to so .

if we did live together we would also lose a lot of benefit and its not fair on her to lose money after all shes caring for her 3 yr old daughter.

would i be able go and sign on as No Fixed Abode ?

my friend who who introduced me to my girlfriend also lives in the same area .

If i could stay with him would he lose his benefits ?

he is a single dad with 2 lads and he works part time and gets working tax credits , and gets housing benefit and council tax benefit.

hes agreed i can stay there for as long as i like or until i get a job up there and then get my own flat .

me and the girlfriend don't plan on living together for at least a couple of years , as we want our relationship to grow .

I can not use her address as the postal address as she already got called into the office asking if i was living there as when i was up last time someone dobbed her in. she was truthful with them and told them that i had come up there for a week and do so every 6 weeks . and they were fine with this.

would my friend lose any of his benefits if i say i live there , ( i would be using his living room with air mattress)

would there be any kind of checks ?


or would it be best just to say his address as a postal address , as i wouldn't want him either to lose any money .

Im also in a little debt and thus the reason to give up the flat and pay my debts off as finding a job in my area is getting more and more harder.

its also taking its toll with the petrol money there and back and will probably have to sell my car anyway . and no train tickets are even more expensive than petrol so catching the train is not an option.

main reason is i want to be close to my partner and her daughter and clear a little debt off..i would be saving a lot as i wouldn't be paying no gas, electric, TV license, phone line, broadband, water rates ,and of course council tax , yep i have to pay council tax out of my benefit. and it would save a fortune selling the car and saving money on car insurance , tax, MOT bills each year. my car is worth about £2k as bought it while i was working .

Will get another car once on my feet in a job in Scotland.

Looking to move there around late November early December.
thank you all for all the help

You'd be putting your friend's benefits at risk, making life inconvenient for him and his children and you're not going to contribute one penny to his household expenses? Some friend you are!

Fishingtime

I hope that you declare that you are unavailable for work when you are away for a week