Damaged car by fachia board on the motorway

Ratboy

Jack_Regan wrote: »

Utter bull.

A reportable rtc is damage other than to your own vehicle.

But when your study for you theory test in C few years time you'll realise that.

Which part of my post did you not read? If you run over a dog, then you MUST report it to the police, failure to do so is a crime.

Hitting anything causes damage to your vehicle, in this case the cooler and bumper, I'm amazed that the OP failed to stop and examine the damage.

I don't understand your sarcastic comment, when I study for a 'c' test, theory test? I've probably had a driving license for longer that you were born?

When you learn how to spell, then maybe you will understand not to post rubbish that you know nothing about, and make assumptions about the people that know far more than yourself, and learn how to learn from that?

alastairq

A good example here, of inadequate observation on the part of the driver.

Folk seem to think all they have to watch for, are other roads users, and which way to go?

Now is the time to spare a thought [half an eyeball is all that is needed] for the nature of the road surface in front?

And if such an idea seems impractical, then slow down a bit? Give yourselves more time to respond to such things?

Works fro me, and I can gallop along [legally, of course] as well as the rest of you lot, if not better.

And I don't smash my suspension on potholes, or smack into debris.....unless I cannot be bothered, that is.....and know full well there is little if any likelihood of sustaining damage of any sort.

Of course, effective observation takes practice....and a will to do it in the first place.

But, if one would rather lay blame at everybody else's door, then carry on as you are, sustaining damage, crashing 'n burning?

Jack_Regan

Ratboy wrote: »

Which part of my post did you not read? If you run over a dog, then you MUST report it to the police, failure to do so is a crime.

Hitting anything causes damage to your vehicle, in this case the cooler and bumper, I'm amazed that the OP failed to stop and examine the damage.

I don't understand your sarcastic comment, when I study for a 'c' test, theory test? I've probably had a driving license for longer that you were born?

When you learn how to spell, then maybe you will understand not to post rubbish that you know nothing about, and make assumptions about the people that know far more than yourself, and learn how to learn from that?

No, you don't.

What crime do you commit if you exchange details with the owner of the dog and don't report it to the police?

comeandgo

Yes, you are supposed to tell the police if you kill a dog. https://www.askthe.police.uk/content/Q434.htm

Jack_Regan

comeandgo wrote: »

Yes, you are supposed to tell the police if you kill a dog. https://www.askthe.police.uk/content/Q434.htm

I suggest you read the road traffic act.

alastairq

This is the problem with giving simplistic responses. They lead to misunderstanding, misinterpretation, and urban myth.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/52/section/170

Above is a link to the appropriate text from RTA 1988.

In plain terms, if a motor vehicle hits a dog, the driver must either [a] exchange details, particularly insurance, to the owner, or anybody reasonable requiring that information...or,

if [a] is not possible, must report the fact to a Police Officer/station ASAP, or, within 24 hours, with insurance details.

If none of the above are complied with, an offence is committed.

Aretnap

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/52/section/170

(1)This section applies in a case where, owing to the presence of a mechanically propelled vehicle on a road or other public place, an accident occurs by which—
(a)personal injury is caused to a person other than the driver of that mechanically propelled vehicle, or
(b)damage is caused—
(i)to a vehicle other than that mechanically propelled vehicle or a trailer drawn by that mechanically propelled vehicle, or
(ii)to an animal other than an animal in or on that mechanically propelled vehicle or a trailer drawn by that mechanically propelled vehicle, or
(iii)to any other property constructed on, fixed to, growing in or otherwise forming part of the land on which the road or place in question is situated or land adjacent to such land.

(8)In this section “animal” means horse, cattle, !!!, mule, sheep, pig, goat or dog.

(Emphasis added)

However a loose fascia board is not a dog, nor is it any of the tpyes of property listed in (1) (iii), so there's no need to report an accident where the only damage is to your own car and/or a fascia board.

Aretnap

alastairq wrote: »

In plain terms, if a motor vehicle hits a dog, the driver must either [a] exchange details, particularly insurance, ...

Name and address, name and address of vehicle owner if different, and vehicle registration mark. There's actually no requirement to give insurance details at the scene - only if and when a claim is actually made (RTA 154).

alastairq

However a loose fascia board is not a dog, nor is it any of the types of property listed in (1) (iii), so there's no need to report an accident where the only damage is to your own car and/or a fascia board.

I don't think anyone has suggested such action in the above circumstance?

However, if debris is stuck, or spotted, it would be nice if the Authorities were made aware of it, and can take action [or not, depending on how much is left in their budget?}

alastairq

Aretnap wrote: »

Name and address, name and address of vehicle owner if different, and vehicle registration mark. There's actually no requirement to give insurance details at the scene - only if and when a claim is actually made (RTA 154).

My mistake...only refers to section (1)[a]

(5)If, in a case where this section applies by virtue of subsection (1)(a) above, the driver of [F4a motor vehicle] does not at the time of the accident produce such a certificate of insurance or security, or other evidence, as is mentioned in section 165(2)(a) of this Act—
(a)to a constable, or
(b)to some person who, having reasonable grounds for so doing, has required him to produce it,the driver must report the accident and produce such a certificate or other evidence.
This subsection does not apply to the driver of an invalid carriage.

ie, where personal injury has occurred other than to the driver [who can, apparently, go fiddle?]

Drivers of invalid carriages can cause carnage and mayhem willy-nilly.........