Red Lines

olduffer

I see that Portsmouth City Council have started to paint over some double yellow lines with red paint.
Both sides of the road leading to the D Day car park and in the car park its self now have red double lines

Do you think it means anything legally?

facade

Red lines mean it is a Red Route, and you can't stop, not even to let someone out unless you are a taxi or disabled.
Double red lines means 24/7, single red there will be a time plaque somewhere saying when it applies.

Red routes have to be applied for, not sure of the hoops the council has to jump through to make them 100% legal and enforceable.

Very common in London, but jumped up councils "out in the sticks" like mine are trying them out

baza52

Identifying Red Routes
The most obvious way to identify a Red Route is by the markings on the side of the road, however signs are also in place to show what restriction is in place. There are three types of Red Route:
Double Red Line Routes
Stopping is not permitted at any time of the day
Single Red Line Routes
Stopping is not allowed between 7am and 7pm (although in the West Midlands, some local variations may apply)
Red Route Clearways
Stopping is only permitted in lay-bys. Generally there are no lines (except at junctions), but signs indicate that restrictions are in place.

shaun_from_Africa

This system has been in place for quite a while in parts of London and they refer to the roads as "Red routes".

Basically, the stopping and parking restrictions are the same as for yellow lines except in the case of a red route, tickets can only be issued by the police or council traffic wardens and not by civil enforcement companies hired by the council.
http://www.croydon.gov.uk/transportandstreets/rhps/roads/rms/redroutes

I wouldn't be surprised if it's the same setup in Portsmouth.

EdGasket

They probably ran out of yellow paint and with current budget constraints......

Hintza

Probably will become another reason for visitors to give Portsmouth a miss. Councils can be very bad at not looking at the bigger picture sometimes.

My nearest city is Glasgow and they have made it either difficult to park or expensive to park, not a problem I just don't go now and just pass through.

Strider590

I think they've started doing this because disabled badge holders can park on double yellow lines (for up to 3 hours).

But this can cause chaos in some towns cities, with the elderly disabled badge holders sometimes parking in stupid locations (on corners, on the ring road, double parked in narrow streets, etc) and sometimes even blocking entire roads completely.

Hintza wrote: »

My nearest city is Glasgow and they have made it either difficult to park or expensive to park, not a problem I just don't go now and just pass through.

Crazy isn't it? They bang on about town centres dying a death, but they don't help by making it expensive just to park your car.

There's a small business unit in town local to me, it's been a bar, and several restaurants, but it fails every single time because the street parking directly outside is (for no good reason) restricted to 15 mins at ALL times of the day, so even at 10pm when the town is completely dead, you cannot park within a mile of the restaurant.

EdGasket

Exactly. Portsmouth seafront used to be free to park but now it costs silly money and often the front and car parks are deserted while the remaining unrestricted residential roads are overflowing with parked cars. Then they wonder why the Pyramids centre, which has no public transport links but does have an expensive car park, doesn't get enough visitors to make a profit!
Shame on you Portsmouth.

Strider590

EdGasket wrote: »

Exactly. Portsmouth seafront used to be free to park but now it costs silly money and often the front and car parks are deserted while the remaining unrestricted residential roads are overflowing with parked cars. Then they wonder why the Pyramids centre, which has no public transport links but does have an expensive car park, doesn't get enough visitors to make a profit!
Shame on you Portsmouth.

Greed, pure and simple......

Like Worcester city centre, you can't (with one exception) park for free within about a 5 mile radius, I used to work there and the parking is £4 a day. £4!!! It cost me £4 in petrol to get there!!!

I ended up parking in the only street they couldn't restrict, a street full of doctors/dental surgeries and care homes, which left me a 1 mile walk to work.

dacouch

shaun_from_Africa wrote: »

This system has been in place for quite a while in parts of London and they refer to the roads as "Red routes".

Basically, the stopping and parking restrictions are the same as for yellow lines except in the case of a red route, tickets can only be issued by the police or council traffic wardens and not by civil enforcement companies hired by the council.
http://www.croydon.gov.uk/transportandstreets/rhps/roads/rms/redroutes

I wouldn't be surprised if it's the same setup in Portsmouth.

If it's a London Red Route the tickets are issued by the Police or more commonly community support officers or by TFL if issued by a camera.

I don't think council wardens have jurisdiction

dacouch

Hintza wrote: »

Probably will become another reason for visitors to give Portsmouth a miss. Councils can be very bad at not looking at the bigger picture sometimes.

My nearest city is Glasgow and they have made it either difficult to park or expensive to park, not a problem I just don't go now and just pass through.

It works well in London as they're used on main arteries / main roads and in effect prevent anything save emergency vehicles and buses etc stopping on the carriageway in rush hours which keeps the traffic moving. They have loading bays and sometimes short term free parking at intervals which can be used out of rush hours or between 7pm and 7am.

If they're implemented correctly it should make the traffic flow freely at peak periods