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Restaurant keeping staff tips

The restaurant I work in have decided that they are 'losing money' due to unspecified 'staff inefficiencies' and are therefore suggesting they want to keep all staff tips for themselves. Tips all go into a pot & get shared out weekly based on hours worked.
Can they legally do this? Surely the customer leaves the tip with the expectation that its going to the staff who served them, not as yet more added to the price on their bill?
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  • AP007
    AP007 Posts: 7,109 Forumite
    edited 16 August 2013 at 7:52PM
    Tell the customers not to leave a tip and that the staff don't get it. That will stick it to the company.

    Are the company using the tips to pay you with?

    http://www.bis.gov.uk/files/file52948.pdf

    If they are stating in a menu that staff get all tips they are lying.
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  • Naf
    Naf Posts: 3,183 Forumite
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    AP007 wrote: »
    Tell the customers not to leave a tip and that the staff don't get it. That will stick it to the company.

    Are the company using the tips to pay you with?

    http://www.bis.gov.uk/files/file52948.pdf

    If they are stating in a menu that staff get all tips they are lying.

    No, tips are over & above min. wage; and they don't state anywhere anything about tips/gratuities.
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  • AP007
    AP007 Posts: 7,109 Forumite
    Naf wrote: »
    No, tips are over & above min. wage; and they don't state anywhere anything about tips/gratuities.
    What about for staff in your contract or hand book? How do the company say they handle them?

    Is it a chain?
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  • AP007
    AP007 Posts: 7,109 Forumite
    wonder if they have a 'tips payable' in their chart of accounts or not just diverting it to food sales/revenue
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  • AP007 wrote: »
    wonder if they have a 'tips payable' in their chart of accounts or not just diverting it to food sales/revenue

    OP says it gets shared out weekly so they aren't keeping it for themselves at all...
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  • AP007
    AP007 Posts: 7,109 Forumite
    OP says it gets shared out weekly so they aren't keeping it for themselves at all...
    but they soon will no doubt

    'and are therefore suggesting they want to keep all staff tips for themselves'
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  • ViolaLass
    ViolaLass Posts: 5,764 Forumite
    Sharing it out isn't unreasonable as it means the kitchen staff also get a share.
  • AP007
    AP007 Posts: 7,109 Forumite
    ViolaLass wrote: »
    Sharing it out isn't unreasonable as it means the kitchen staff also get a share.
    the op is talking about the company keeping it though
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  • spacey2012
    spacey2012 Posts: 5,836 Forumite
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    Start looking for another job .
    Be happy...;)
  • ViolaLass
    ViolaLass Posts: 5,764 Forumite
    AP007 wrote: »
    the op is talking about the company keeping it though


    my mistake, I had misread the OP. No, it wouldn't be fair.
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