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erroneous transfer to npower

emr_2
emr_2 Posts: 108 Forumite
How can an energy company take over my supply without my permission / confirmation? I received an email from my gas & electricity supplier, to say "sorry you are leaving us." On enquiry I was told that npower was taking over supply. This was news to me - I had no plans to change supplier. Subsequently I was told that it was an erroneous transfer which would take 4-6 weeks to reverse. Seems that a neighbour has requested transfer and my meter number became confused with their address. (It seems that for a number of our houses, the builder's original plot numbers and partial addresses were still registered with the gas transporter, which has caused problems for people trying to switch). The complaints dept at my "real" supplier has been trying to get the erroneous transfer sorted out with npower, with no success. More than 41 days have passed. In the meantime, my gas & electricity a/cs have been blocked. I am not getting bills. I got a letter from my own supplier dated 29 July saying I would be receiving a cheque for £20, for my inconvenience, but still waiting for that. I got a phone number for npower complaints and eventually got through the automated system which was not easy as I don't have an a/c number! The way in apparently is to keep pressing 5. An adviser told me it would take 28 days to reverse the transfer but their next level of escalation would kick in at day 56 from the day I contacted them. That means it will be more than 3 months before my problem (caused by the energy companies) is sorted out. I was told that the delay in resolving my issue is unusually long. Both companies are telling me that they are following their processes correctly. I am not disputing that. It is just wrong that that my gas supply can be transferred without my permission, and not immediately restored as soon as the error is realised. Does anyone have any advice to help me get this resolved? I hope Adam from npower picks this up and can help me. I would also like the best advice about who to contact regarding getting these transfer procedures changed to help the customer! Sorry this is a long post.

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  • chanz4
    chanz4 Posts: 11,033 Forumite
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    an et with any gaining supplier has to be investigated, it also depends how far in the transfer process it is. Are npower the actual supplier now or just at confirmation accepted with date?
    Don't put your trust into an Experian score - it is not a number any bank will ever use & it is generally a waste of money to purchase it. They are also selling you insurance you dont need.
  • Nada666
    Nada666 Posts: 5,004 Forumite
    edited 8 August 2013 at 9:38AM
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    Erroneous transfers happen.

    Your supplies will not be cut off. The same quality of energy will be entering your home. Any difference in costs will be reimbursed. You will pocket some extra money. Relax.
  • Wywth
    Wywth Posts: 5,079 Forumite
    edited 8 August 2013 at 9:46AM
    emr wrote: »
    How can an energy company take over my supply without my permission / confirmation? I received an email from my gas & electricity supplier, to say "sorry you are leaving us." On enquiry I was told that npower was taking over supply. This was news to me - I had no plans to change supplier. Subsequently I was told that it was an erroneous transfer which would take 4-6 weeks to reverse. Seems that a neighbour has requested transfer and my meter number became confused with their address. (It seems that for a number of our houses, the builder's original plot numbers and partial addresses were still registered with the gas transporter, which has caused problems for people trying to switch). The complaints dept at my "real" supplier has been trying to get the erroneous transfer sorted out with npower, with no success. More than 41 days have passed. In the meantime, my gas & electricity a/cs have been blocked. I am not getting bills. I got a letter from my own supplier dated 29 July saying I would be receiving a cheque for £20, for my inconvenience, but still waiting for that. I got a phone number for npower complaints and eventually got through the automated system which was not easy as I don't have an a/c number! The way in apparently is to keep pressing 5. An adviser told me it would take 28 days to reverse the transfer but their next level of escalation would kick in at day 56 from the day I contacted them. That means it will be more than 3 months before my problem (caused by the energy companies) is sorted out. I was told that the delay in resolving my issue is unusually long. Both companies are telling me that they are following their processes correctly. I am not disputing that. It is just wrong that that my gas supply can be transferred without my permission, and not immediately restored as soon as the error is realised. Does anyone have any advice to help me get this resolved? I hope Adam from npower picks this up and can help me. I would also like the best advice about who to contact regarding getting these transfer procedures changed to help the customer! Sorry this is a long post.
    Soiunds like you are just in the process if you've only just got the 'Sorry you are leaving us' letter. Just give your current supplier a call if you don't agree with the switch - it's what the letter is intended for.

    If the matter has progressed further (you later say 41 days? :huh:) you can complain about an ET to either supplier.
    I always recommend complaining to the losing supplier as they are the ones that are losing out unless it is stopped.

    If you complained 41 days ago, then in 7 days you can escalate the matter to the ombudsman if the matter is not resolved :)
  • emr_2
    emr_2 Posts: 108 Forumite
    Thanks Wyeth, that's helpful.
  • dogshome
    dogshome Posts: 3,878 Forumite
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    ET's are still common unfortunately
    You don't say who your current, (the losing) supplier is, but on the assumption that you prefer to deal with them suggests that you chose their tariff because it was the most economic for your circumstances.

    For some weeks you are stuck with n'power and will expected to pay them for the period they have supplied you.

    However the Good/Bad economoics of most n'power tariffs depend on a 12 month cash-back element that only gets paid if you pay 12 consecutive monthly D/Debits, which you will not benifit from
    When you get the n'power bills, check the costs against those of your 'proper' supplier - If n'power's are higher are reject the bills in WRITING and demand bills based on the rates of your 'proper' supplier
  • Wywth
    Wywth Posts: 5,079 Forumite
    edited 9 August 2013 at 12:34PM
    dogshome wrote: »
    ET's are still common unfortunately
    You don't say who your current, (the losing) supplier is, but on the assumption that you prefer to deal with them suggests that you chose their tariff because it was the most economic for your circumstances.

    For some weeks you are stuck with n'power and will expected to pay them for the period they have supplied you.

    However the Good/Bad economoics of most n'power tariffs depend on a 12 month cash-back element that only gets paid if you pay 12 consecutive monthly D/Debits, which you will not benifit from
    When you get the n'power bills, check the costs against those of your 'proper' supplier - If n'power's are higher are reject the bills in WRITING and demand bills based on the rates of your 'proper' supplier

    If (and I'm still unsure of timings that an ET is actually required) this progresses to an ET (and is upheld) then the customer will be put back in a situation as though the transfer never occurred :)

    The new supplier (nPower) shouldn't ask for, nor receive, even a penny.

    http://cfe.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/44/~/what-happens-if-a-supplier-takes-over-an-energy-supply-without-permission%3F
  • chanz4
    chanz4 Posts: 11,033 Forumite
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    dogshome wrote: »
    ET's are still common unfortunately
    You don't say who your current, (the losing) supplier is, but on the assumption that you prefer to deal with them suggests that you chose their tariff because it was the most economic for your circumstances.

    For some weeks you are stuck with n'power and will expected to pay them for the period they have supplied you.

    However the Good/Bad economoics of most n'power tariffs depend on a 12 month cash-back element that only gets paid if you pay 12 consecutive monthly D/Debits, which you will not benifit from
    When you get the n'power bills, check the costs against those of your 'proper' supplier - If n'power's are higher are reject the bills in WRITING and demand bills based on the rates of your 'proper' supplier

    npower wont bill if gained in error, neither would any other if gained
    Don't put your trust into an Experian score - it is not a number any bank will ever use & it is generally a waste of money to purchase it. They are also selling you insurance you dont need.
  • dogshome
    dogshome Posts: 3,878 Forumite
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    Too much faith in the system?

    The supplier who initiated this ET, is n'power - A company that wins medals for it's tight adherance to rules and procedures ?
    So lets see what the OP reports back
  • nPower
    nPower Posts: 1,319 Organisation Representative
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    emr wrote: »
    How can an energy company take over my supply without my permission / confirmation? I received an email from my gas & electricity supplier, to say "sorry you are leaving us." On enquiry I was told that npower was taking over supply. This was news to me - I had no plans to change supplier. Subsequently I was told that it was an erroneous transfer which would take 4-6 weeks to reverse. Seems that a neighbour has requested transfer and my meter number became confused with their address. (It seems that for a number of our houses, the builder's original plot numbers and partial addresses were still registered with the gas transporter, which has caused problems for people trying to switch). The complaints dept at my "real" supplier has been trying to get the erroneous transfer sorted out with npower, with no success. More than 41 days have passed. In the meantime, my gas & electricity a/cs have been blocked. I am not getting bills. I got a letter from my own supplier dated 29 July saying I would be receiving a cheque for £20, for my inconvenience, but still waiting for that. I got a phone number for npower complaints and eventually got through the automated system which was not easy as I don't have an a/c number! The way in apparently is to keep pressing 5. An adviser told me it would take 28 days to reverse the transfer but their next level of escalation would kick in at day 56 from the day I contacted them. That means it will be more than 3 months before my problem (caused by the energy companies) is sorted out. I was told that the delay in resolving my issue is unusually long. Both companies are telling me that they are following their processes correctly. I am not disputing that. It is just wrong that that my gas supply can be transferred without my permission, and not immediately restored as soon as the error is realised. Does anyone have any advice to help me get this resolved? I hope Adam from npower picks this up and can help me. I would also like the best advice about who to contact regarding getting these transfer procedures changed to help the customer! Sorry this is a long post.

    Hi emr,

    I'm sorry to read about the problems you've been having.

    Would you like me to see if I can get things sped up for you? If you can send me your details to the address on my profile page, I can take a look.

    Best wishes,

    Adam :)
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