UJM giving permission to access

Faily_Dail

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BurnleyBob wrote: »

You will have to be careful how you couch reasons for not allowing access to guard against an adviser taking personal umbrage.

Tell them you've been advised against doing so (which you have in this thread). Should they ask by whom, inform them that that's confidential or privileged information that you can't disclose.

Just explain you're uncomfortable with the idea of the government holding more data on you than they need to.

john539

iammumtoone wrote: »

I haven't given the JC permission to access my UJM, however I am registered and they can see this when they look.

I don't really want to give them permission but am finding that I am getting more and more hassle about it every time I go. I don't know what to say when they keep asking why I won't allow it.

I am worried about giving access as although I do look every day I am aware that things happen outside my control (me or my son could be ill, internet could be down for the day etc) and don't want an automatic sanction because I haven't logged on for a day.

What reason does everyone give for not allowing access?

Thanks

"You don't know enough about it to give access".

DWP has not made full disclosure on giving access, not providing any education or training on UJM to jobseekers, not provided any detailed information on UJM, what data is monitored, how it is monitored, how it is collated, how it is being used, but don't say this directly.

tokenfield

BurnleyBob wrote: »

You're correct.

But JSA claimants need to stay on the right side of advisers because they wield great power over them, and when the advisers are pressured by a superior to influence claimants to allow them access then many of them submit.

So you are in agreement that it is OK for JC to intimidate claimants?

tokenfield

Poppie68 wrote: »

Oh that sounds familiar!
Careful your starting to give yourself away.;)

Am I ???????? Woof woof!!!

MidnightHour

You don't need to give a reason, just quote the data protection act from 19 o blank.

Sounds like you have an assertiveness issue, these people don't own you, they are civil servants!

Speak to CAB or some other advocate to get help with asserting your basic human right to privacy if you have no confidence.

Myself i would just tell them i no longer have internet access due to lack of money!

BurnleyBob

tokenfield wrote: »

So you are in agreement that it is OK for JC to intimidate claimants?

I'm dead against the jobcentre reign of terror. Lots of people are scared witless of being sanctioned for the petty reasons. What I was trying to convey to the OP is to use subtlety when he's next lent on.

BurnleyBob

MidnightHour wrote: »

You don't need to give a reason, just quote the data protection act from 19 o blank.

Sounds like you have an assertiveness issue, these people don't own you, they are civil servants!

Speak to CAB or some other advocate to get help with asserting your basic human right to privacy if you have no confidence.

Myself i would just tell them i no longer have internet access due to lack of money!

They'd have you to visit the library for internet access or to use their terminals.

MidnightHour

BurnleyBob wrote: »

They'd have you to visit the library for internet access or to use their terminals.

All fine and dandy but they still don't have to give access to the account or be expected to visit every day, so how could they prove OP did or did not?

And if he wanted to i'm sure he could claim expenses?

Are there still library's in most towns and city's now?

Maybe the tory government have closed a lot :cool:

MidnightHour

OP have a read here https://www.gov.uk/data-protection/the-data-protection-act

Thankfully we don't have to tell anyone any thing we don't want to, might not be forever but enjoy it while we can.

BurnleyBob

MidnightHour wrote: »

All fine and dandy but they still don't have to give access to the account or be expected to visit every day, so how could they prove OP did or did not?

And if he wanted to i'm sure he could claim expenses?

Are there still library's in most towns and city's now?

Maybe the tory government have closed a lot :cool:

I haven't been inside a jobcentre for 16 years. I remember it was a horrible experience. From the people I know who visit there nowadays I have the impression it's much, much worse in 2013 than then and they want to get in and out of the place as fast as they can with the least amount of hassle and having no home internet access, whether true or not, would cause them grief one way or another.