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Is it that hard to dismiss an employee?

Hi,

I wonder if someone can help - I work for a small company and we've had a couple of cases where staff were not performing and my boss paid them to leave the company.

He has told me that's the easier way to dismiss someone but I find it hard to believe that staff that is costing us money due to incompetence can't be dismissed without having to be paid off.
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  • AP007
    AP007 Posts: 7,109 Forumite
    If the staff have been there shorter than 2 years its easy to get rid. No need to pay anyone off other than notice periods
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  • pusched
    pusched Posts: 47 Forumite
    Thanks for your answer.

    So we still have to pay their notice? Even if we have proof of their inability to do the work as required?
  • Torry_Quine
    Torry_Quine Posts: 18,887 Forumite
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    edited 4 August 2013 at 5:35PM
    pusched wrote: »
    Hi,

    I wonder if someone can help - I work for a small company and we've had a couple of cases where staff were not performing and my boss paid them to leave the company.

    He has told me that's the easier way to dismiss someone but I find it hard to believe that staff that is costing us money due to incompetence can't be dismissed without having to be paid off.


    If an employee has worked for less than two years (from April 2012) they can be dismissed for any non-discriminatory reason.

    Otherwise the employer must follow correct disciplinary procedures. Simply giving someone money to get rid of them is living the employer open to a tribunal for wrongly dismissing them
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  • pusched
    pusched Posts: 47 Forumite
    If an employee has worked for less than two years (from April 2013) they can be dismissed for any non-discriminatory reason.

    Otherwise the employer must follow correct disciplinary procedures. Simply giving someone money to get rid of them is living the employer open to a tribunal for wrongly dismissing them

    Interesting - so would it a case of sitting with the staff member, going through the issues with their work and say that they are dismissed and will only be paid for the days worked until then?
  • AP007
    AP007 Posts: 7,109 Forumite
    pusched wrote: »
    Interesting - so would it a case of sitting with the staff member, going through the issues with their work and say that they are dismissed and will only be paid for the days worked until then?
    Not if they have been there longer than in the post above. You still have to pay notice
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  • Torry_Quine
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    pusched wrote: »
    Interesting - so would it a case of sitting with the staff member, going through the issues with their work and say that they are dismissed and will only be paid for the days worked until then?

    https://www.gov.uk/dismiss-staff/fair-dismissals
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  • LittleVoice
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    pusched wrote: »
    Hi,

    I wonder if someone can help - I work for a small company and we've had a couple of cases where staff were not performing and my boss paid them to leave the company.

    He has told me that's the easier way to dismiss someone but I find it hard to believe that staff that is costing us money due to incompetence can't be dismissed without having to be paid off.

    Does your employer provide written particulars of employment to his employees?
  • pusched
    pusched Posts: 47 Forumite
    Does your employer provide written particulars of employment to his employees?

    You mean a contract? If so, yes we do.
  • hcb42
    hcb42 Posts: 5,962 Forumite
    pusched wrote: »
    Thanks for your answer.

    So we still have to pay their notice? Even if we have proof of their inability to do the work as required?


    yes. Not to pay notice would be a disgraceful practice.
  • AP007
    AP007 Posts: 7,109 Forumite
    pusched wrote: »
    You mean a contract? If so, yes we do.
    So what does it say about termination of contract?
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