Nice People Thread Part 9 - and so it continues

GDB2222

PasturesNew wrote: »

Whoosh ... that was hard going.

I think I'll stick with:

"... and nobody knows,
tiddly pom,
how cold my toes,
tiddly pom,
how cold my toes,
tiddly pom,
are growing...."

At least I know what's going on there!

I'm afraid that I found Winnie the Pooh completely baffling when I was a child, although he's grown on me as an adult. I agree that the tiddly pom poem is one of the most profound. Really, the only piece that rivals it is:

If I were a bear,
And a big bear too,
I shouldn't much care
If it froze or snew;
I shouldn't much mind
If it snowed or friz--
I'd be all fur-lined
With a coat like his!

LydiaJ

GDB2222 wrote: »

I remember when I was about Isaac's age that I really enjoyed the Sherlock Holmes stories. Obviously, the darker side (the drug taking, for example) went whoosh past me, but the stories are beautifully written. And of course they are out of copyright now, so free on your Kindle.

That might keep him out of trouble for a few days. Then introduce him to GK Chesterton's Father Brown, and that's another few days. (Also out of copyright.)

Oooh, I should try reading Father Brown to DS and see if he likes it. He generally prefers watching things to listening to them, though.

I would recommend people who like Father Brown to try R Austin Freeman's Thorndyke stories (both the short stories and the novels), recently out of copyright within the last month or two, and available on Project Gutenberg Australia (where they've been out of copyright a lot longer because their rules are different from ours).

zagubov

LydiaJ wrote: »

Oooh, I should try reading Father Brown to DS and see if he likes it. He generally prefers watching things to listening to them, though.

I would recommend people who like Father Brown to try R Austin Freeman's Thorndyke stories (both the short stories and the novels), recently out of copyright within the last month or two, and available on Project Gutenberg Australia (where they've been out of copyright a lot longer because their rules are different from ours).

Have you tried him out on the Saki Website that GDB suggested three threads back. Or the story you posted back then.

LydiaJ

zagubov wrote: »

Have you tried him out on the Saki Website that GDB suggested three threads back. Or the story you posted back then.

No. He won't read to himself - he has to put in lots of effort to read the stuff he has to read for school and doesn't choose to expend his free time that way. But I don't think I'd read him Saki at this stage anyway. He's an emotionally complicated sort of person (for obvious reasons) and I think he would be put off by the cynicism and general nastiness underlying so much of Saki. I can only take it in small doses myself.

CKhalvashi

Доброе утро! Киев призвание :cool:

I was going to interrupt for some professional (LiR and Pastures especially) music opinion, but NP chat looks serious.

I will do it later

lostinrates

LydiaJ wrote: »

No. He won't read to himself - he has to put in lots of effort to read the stuff he has to read for school and doesn't choose to expend his free time that way. But I don't think I'd read him Saki at this stage anyway. He's an emotionally complicated sort of person (for obvious reasons) and I think he would be put off by the cynicism and general nastiness underlying so much of Saki. I can only take it in small doses myself.

Audio books? DH is just about to buy three audio books I simply want him to.

An especially good purpose of these is before films come out for slow readers. E.g. Now the second hunger games is coming out and DH hasn't got a hope of reading it I am suggesting an audio book would deal with it quickly. That way slow readers get to appreciate the finesse of the book and the comparison between the two art forms. Even though I often resent film adaptations I'd always choose to have read the books. Alternatively, if he likes films and feels he 'cannot get enough' of one of them, finding a audio book of something it was adapted from would provide a deeper appreciation of it retrospectively.

lostinrates

LydiaJ wrote: »

Thank you. I've no desire to live on a pedestal - lonely uncomfortable places, pedestals. However, regardless of how well others would or would not manage under similar circumstances, I do frequently feel that it would be better for my children, and especially for DD, if I managed a bit better than I do, and that makes me sad.

I think of myself as a basically ordinary person who's had to deal with some not very ordinary circumstances, and my memories of falling apart spectacularly and being a total basket case when everything began falling apart for me have resulted in my belief that whatever strength I have now is to God's credit rather than mine. However, I have learnt over the last 10 years not to be surprised when people who haven't been through what I've been through think I'm coping impressively, and I'm quite happy to accept their saying so.... as long as they don't follow it up by saying that they are bad/failing/useless for not dealing impeccably with some entirely different set of difficulties (such as throwing up all the time for months, which I have never had to suffer, and would be made utterly miserable by).

Spending some time not coping is also important to be rounded . Its harder to claw back than it is to avoid descent I think. So if you drop before some one catches you or without a network to do that, getting back is always impressive.

I base this on the fact that I find ticking along with a set of circumstances ok, but a new spanner in the works can be debilitating. At times I resent the better days, because the up and down is actually harder to cope with than stasis would be because its hard not to feel its somehow ones fault.

We'll all make it through to the end of our stories one way or other ....there isn't much choice after all

SingleSue

I had so many years of being told I was parenting the wrong way that I find it hard to accept when people tell me I am doing a good job.

It's strange really, all the things I got told off about in those younger days are now the things that people are saying are the most positive and the best thing I could have done. Ok, it is still a long way to go for most other parents of autistic children to realise that there are other methods in dealing with their children and what at first glance might appear cruel are actually some of the best things you can do for your child in the future.

I still say I muddle through being a parent, sometimes I get it wrong, sometimes I get it right and sometimes it is almost but not quite there or I lose my rag/throw my hands up in despair/give up.

LydiaJ

SingleSue wrote: »

I had so many years of being told I was parenting the wrong way that I find it hard to accept when people tell me I am doing a good job.

It's strange really, all the things I got told off about in those younger days are now the things that people are saying are the most positive and the best thing I could have done. Ok, it is still a long way to go for most other parents of autistic children to realise that there are other methods in dealing with their children and what at first glance might appear cruel are actually some of the best things you can do for your child in the future.

I still say I muddle through being a parent, sometimes I get it wrong, sometimes I get it right and sometimes it is almost but not quite there or I lose my rag/throw my hands up in despair/give up.

I think you're going to have to get used to people telling you you're doing a great job. It's only going to keep happening more and more often.

PasturesNew

GDB2222 wrote: »

I'm afraid that I found Winnie the Pooh completely baffling when I was a child, although he's grown on me as an adult. I agree that the tiddly pom poem is one of the most profound. Really, the only piece that rivals it is:

If I were a bear,
And a big bear too,
I shouldn't much care
If it froze or snew;
I shouldn't much mind
If it snowed or friz--
I'd be all fur-lined
With a coat like his!

These days the Internet is awash with "writers" who write "poems" - but they don't rhyme. I've never understood poems that don't rhyme. What's the point if they don't rhyme.

I remember the poem you've mentioned.

It rhymes. Perfect