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  • Land_Registry
    Land_Registry Posts: 6,152 Organisation Representative
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    1) From a Land Registry point of view, it would be worth making the change if it keeps your address for service in the register up to date. This is important as it ensures that any official correspondence we send out goes to the right place at the right time and assists as an anti-fraud measure. Please see our website ‘Protect your home from property fraud’ There is no fee.

    2) With regard to the actual description of a property
    • if a house has a name and postal number, you can amend the property description to show a change of the name without evidence from the local authority.
    • if there’s no postal number and you want to change the name, appropriate evidence is required. This would normally be an official letter from the local authority or correspondence with the local authority or Royal Mail Address Maintenance Unit confirming the change.
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  • Alpha58
    Alpha58 Posts: 193 Forumite
    Absolute bl00dy nightmare. My house is in a private (unadopted) road with three houses and is a spur off a busy road. The houses have been known by names since they were built thirty years ago but the local authority imposed numbers on them some time later. The numbers relate to the busy road outside and our houses are not even visible from that road; there is another road with a similair name at the other end of town which makes it even worse. When I tackled the LA about this, they told me that the names of our road and our houses are "postal aliases" and that the law requires every house to have a number.

    I checked through this exhaustively and can find no legal requirement to have a number. The LA "authorise" road names based on predefined criteria and they pass this on to the Post Office who allocate postcodes. There was a charge of £47, for which the LA would notify the emergency services, Post Office etc...except they are refusing to do it. Presumably they think we are a bit poncy for having house names - they are completely overstepping their authority but there is not much we can do, short of going to law - and nobody fancies the cost of that!
  • custardy
    custardy Posts: 38,365 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    Not with my postie

    Building across the road has changed its designation from "number X" to "name AAAAA".

    When mail still gets addressed to Number X, postie looks along the street and finds me "Flat X, Number Y" and thinks that must be it.

    On handing it back to him I said "It's that building across the road that has different postcode to mine" and he said "Oh I never look at postcodes"

    I kid you not

    tim

    You expect them to memorise every postcode sector?
  • tim123456789
    tim123456789 Posts: 1,787 Forumite
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    custardy wrote: »
    You expect them to memorise every postcode sector?

    No.

    But I expect them to sort their mail into "postcode order" and then walk up/down the streets in that order. (That is, AIUI why they are ordered as they are)

    If post codes are set up so that they are delivering to one side of the street first, I expect them to notice that any one piece of mail in that bundle can't be for the other side of the street

    tim
  • custardy
    custardy Posts: 38,365 Forumite
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    No.

    But I expect them to sort their mail into "postcode order" and then walk up/down the streets in that order. (That is, AIUI why they are ordered as they are)

    If post codes are set up so that they are delivering to one side of the street first, I expect them to notice that any one piece of mail in that bundle can't be for the other side of the street

    tim

    LOL @ postode order
    Machines sort by postcode
    Humans read the address
    you expect someone to check the postcode on every letter and then reference it with the postcode?
    Seriously,its simply not feasible
    What you want is a regular postie who knows where everyone lives
    thin on the ground these days
  • Alpha58 wrote: »
    When I tackled the LA about this, they told me that the names of our road and our houses are "postal aliases" and that the law requires every house to have a number.

    I checked through this exhaustively and can find no legal requirement to have a number.

    You're right - it's utter bobbins! I don't think there's a single house with a number in my entire (very rural) postcode area. In fact, my road doesn't even have a name - all the addresses along it are just the house name, then the name of our hamlet.
  • tim123456789
    tim123456789 Posts: 1,787 Forumite
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    custardy wrote: »
    LOL @ postode order
    Machines sort by postcode
    Humans read the address
    you expect someone to check the postcode on every letter and then reference it with the postcode?

    You said that the machine checks and sorts the postcode.

    Postie doesn't have to do anything except trust that the mail has been sorted properly and not decide for himself that this random piece of mail in his "right side of the street bundle" is actually for the left side, when it isn't.

    tim
  • custardy
    custardy Posts: 38,365 Forumite
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    You said that the machine checks and sorts the postcode.

    Postie doesn't have to do anything except trust that the mail has been sorted properly and not decide for himself that this random piece of mail in his "right side of the street bundle" is actually for the left side, when it isn't.

    tim

    I said machines read postcodes
    You think the machines sort everything?
    just rock up to work
    grab a wee bundle of mail and its all done?
  • tim123456789
    tim123456789 Posts: 1,787 Forumite
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    custardy wrote: »
    I said machines read postcodes
    You think the machines sort everything?
    just rock up to work
    grab a wee bundle of mail and its all done?

    OK so Postie sorts it

    It doesn't matter who sorts it. It is sorted into postcode then number order (or, where appropriate, reverse number order)before he goes out on this "walk".

    That's how they do it. I've seen them

    tim
  • custardy
    custardy Posts: 38,365 Forumite
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    OK so Postie sorts it

    It doesn't matter who sorts it. It is sorted into postcode then number order (or, where appropriate, reverse number order)before he goes out on this "walk".

    That's how they do it. I've seen them

    tim

    It is sorted to Postcode,not sector
    So NW1,NW2 etc
    Once at the office,it is sorted by address
    Trust me on this Tim
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