Chicken and rice for a poorly puppy tummy?

skintandscared_2

aileth wrote: »

And through all this worry you've now discovered something that you can enjoy eating yourself ! :rotfl:

Definitely!! I was just thinking if I stuck a few stir fried veggies in there I could happily eat his chicken rice dinner LOL.

Just one more quick question - he's just had the chicken and rice today. Should we do half and half with normal food tomorrow or give it another day? His poo today is light coloured but firm...

GoldenShadow

skintandscared wrote: »

Thanks for your reply. I got the name wrong of the worming stuff - it's Advocate. What worries me about that stuff is that we had the does suitable for puppies up to 4kg, but he's literally half that weight. So, in effect, he's getting double the dose of a 4kg puppy. Can't believe it's just a massive coincidence that the first time he has an upset tummy is the day after we administer this stuff on his neck??

Anyway, he's fasted all day and was sat in the kitchen dribbling while I boiled some chicken breasts then cooked white rice in the chicken water. We didn't give him loads, but he wolfed it down!! He's fine tonight but I've cooked enough chicken and rice for him to have just that tomorrow, plus some little chicken bits to use as treats when he goes for a wee or poo outside (we still need to positively reinforce that but I want to make sure he has a "bland food" day tomorrow!)

I didn't know about the cows milk thing. I've read so many things that say a dog with tummy problems can have white rice with cottage cheese or even just plain yoghurt?

I personally would never use Advocate.

Basically dog's can be intolerant to anything, but dairy is more common than a lot of things. The most common allergens are beef, pork, dairy, soy and wheat. Some dogs cope fine with natural yoghurt from cow's milk etc, but there are some who do not and it is harder for a dog to digest cow product's than that of a goat. Mine get goat's milk, yoghurt etc quite regularly but I don't give cow's.

I have a dog who has had skin problems since 10 months of age (he's just shy of 5) and so I have experimented with his diet for all of his life.

I am more of a research and make my own mind up dog owner. I feed raw and do not flea mine. They are regularly brushed and two or three times I've found a couple fleas after a work, got rid of them and that's that. I would prefer to use natural stuff ie. neem and garlic to eradicate them as opposed to such harsh chemicals found in spot ons. I use a pet forum and once someone's dog jumped on the sofa and rolled about after being flead with Advocate. I'm not kidding when I say it melted the top layer of the leather on the sofa. I'm not putting that on my dog, not least because fleas are a pain in the !!!! if you get them, but they don't put the dog's life at risk either.

Mine do get wormed but it is not as regularly as some vets encourage. I would only use spot on's like Stronghold if needed to treat for mange type thing, otherwise I would really try to avoid them and use other methods. Others will disagree, but as I said I am a research and make my own decision kind of person and do have a dog with a serious health condition to consider.

GoldenShadow

Oh and I don't know what your dog is, but Advocate must not be used on collie types of dog. I believe they suffer seriously with it and Advocate say do not use it on them.

ETA:

Here is the sofa-melty thread:

http://www.petforums.co.uk/dog-chat/105049-warning-advocate.html

mtbbuxton

skintandscared wrote: »

Definitely!! I was just thinking if I stuck a few stir fried veggies in there I could happily eat his chicken rice dinner LOL.

Just one more quick question - he's just had the chicken and rice today. Should we do half and half with normal food tomorrow or give it another day? His poo today is light coloured but firm...

The light colour is due to the food he's having and perfectly normal. Personally, I'd give him 1/4 normal and 3/4 bland for a couple of meals, then do half and half for a couple, 3/4 normal 1/4 bland for a couple, then back to ordinary food. We've found it works well with ours and prevents overloading their system if it's still a bit sensitive.
Glad to hear he's getting back to normal,

M x

krlyr

GoldenShadow wrote: »

I am more of a research and make my own mind up dog owner. I feed raw and do not flea mine. They are regularly brushed and two or three times I've found a couple fleas after a work, got rid of them and that's that. I would prefer to use natural stuff ie. neem and garlic to eradicate them as opposed to such harsh chemicals found in spot ons. I use a pet forum and once someone's dog jumped on the sofa and rolled about after being flead with Advocate. I'm not kidding when I say it melted the top layer of the leather on the sofa. I'm not putting that on my dog, not least because fleas are a pain in the !!!! if you get them, but they don't put the dog's life at risk either.

Many chemicals can have bad reactions with certain substances. The antibiotic, Baytril, for example, can cause a horrific "burn" reaction when injected - look up "Baytril burn" - yet it could save the life of an animal with an infection.

I've used Advocate for years and it's certainly not melted the skin off my dogs! I also carefully choose what my dogs are exposed to, they're raw-fed too, but I choose to use Advocate as I prefer it than the risk of lungworm, which is a real threat in my area - I know of several dogs who've sadly died from it.

Like you say, research and make up your own mind.

GoldenShadow

krlyr wrote: »

Many chemicals can have bad reactions with certain substances. The antibiotic, Baytril, for example, can cause a horrific "burn" reaction when injected - look up "Baytril burn" - yet it could save the life of an animal with an infection.

I've used Advocate for years and it's certainly not melted the skin off my dogs! I also carefully choose what my dogs are exposed to, they're raw-fed too, but I choose to use Advocate as I prefer it than the risk of lungworm, which is a real threat in my area - I know of several dogs who've sadly died from it.

Like you say, research and make up your own mind.

Panacur and Millbemax are capable of treating lungworm (I am aware Advocate is the only one which 100% treats with a single dose) but it is not a risk I will take using Advocate. My friend's dog had lungworm when she got him, was given panacur and was fine after no ill effects at all.

There are dogs who have been fed Bakers all their lives and are fine, but that doesn't change the crap in it or mean that everything on the inside is OK. I do not doubt the severity of lungworm but as you say it is weighing up risks. The research into how well and at bay regular doses of panacur keep it is enough for me. Neither of mine have toys or bowls outside and research regarding trails on grass etc was quite inconclusive and my vets personally don't think that is of concern. If I had a dog who sought out slugs etc I may be more wary, but mine don't thankfully.

My golden retriever reacts to vaccinations repeatedly and thus I examine everything really carefully and make informed choices largely because he needs to be handled as a special case in very area iykwim. As long as people research and make an informed choice, there's an awful lot of things in the pet world which aren't as honest as they should be, as you will know I imagine choosing to feed raw!

meritaten

mtbbuxton wrote: »

The light colour is due to the food he's having and perfectly normal. Personally, I'd give him 1/4 normal and 3/4 bland for a couple of meals, then do half and half for a couple, 3/4 normal 1/4 bland for a couple, then back to ordinary food. We've found it works well with ours and prevents overloading their system if it's still a bit sensitive.
Glad to hear he's getting back to normal,

M x

^^^^ exactly what I would say! just like getting a human invalid back onto 'normal food'! its sudden changes in diet which can cause problems.
I hope he is back to normal soon!

zaksmum

Whenever my dogs had upset tums I boiled some chicken on the bone for several hours, then put the chicken to one side and cooked some rice in it's broth.

Let the chicken cool till a jelly formed, then mixed it in with the cooked rice.

The dogs loved it and their tums were sorted in no time.

skintandscared_2

Thanks for all your comments. We are now gradually re-introducing the forthglade food. He is still gobbling up all the chicken and rice first, then reluctantly eating the "proper" food. I think I will have to make chicken and rice for him every so often as a treat anyway he loves it so much LOL.

skintandscared_2

Feeling better! (hopefully the flickr pic will show on here...?)