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Horrid Landlord, Horrid Agents

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  • seven-day-weekend
    seven-day-weekend Posts: 36,755 Forumite
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    Why not just allow access for the gardener if you nare not allowed to do any gardening. Wouldn't that be easier?
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  • scroogest
    scroogest Posts: 21 Forumite
    I would scatter a back of weed killer liberally over the garden, before leaving a big brown *present* on their plant. Get out of that house - you don't need that kind of negativity.


    It's a very tall plant, probably about 5 metres high. I would love to actually concrete the entire garden, we have had so much grief over it for the time we have been here.

    We will be leaving at the end of the month, but it looks like they will make it has hard as possible.
  • scroogest
    scroogest Posts: 21 Forumite
    silvercar wrote: »
    Presumably if the lease states you must not do any gardening it also states you must allow access to the gardener!


    Yes it does state that access is to be given to the gardener, but there are specific pre-agreed days on which he is supposed to come. I am female and I would not be happy with 4 strangers arriving unannounced to do gardening if I happen to be sunbathing or just reading in the garden. It is a matter of privacy. Privacy is important to us. The gardener has consistently failed to get the days right and that is why we fell out in the first place. He has used the hosepipe liberally during a hosepipe ban. The landlord refused to believe us. We ended up taking a picture and emailing it to her. She then refused to deal with us and asked the agents to deal with us solely. :-(
  • scroogest
    scroogest Posts: 21 Forumite
    Generali wrote: »
    Isn't that trespass, a civil offence? I'm no legal expert but I'm pretty sure I'm right.

    You are absolutely right. I rang the police. Not much help. It is a civil offense. As for them using water (after trespassing) without our permission, that is considered as 'obtaining services by deception'. Again it is a civil issue.

    :-(
  • scroogest
    scroogest Posts: 21 Forumite
    To be honest you sound a little hysterical. Ring the police over a tree? The gardener was just doing his job. You need to separate the tree issue from that of the lease.


    The issue is that of someone tresspassing onto the property. We are supposed to be given 2 days notice prior to anyone at all coming to the house. It does not matter if it is the gardener or the plumber or the electrician. If we have not granted permission, seeing as how that is what the lease stipulates and how it has been done in the past, then they are not welcome. I might have planned to be having a nude yoga party or something or anything, I do not see why I am expected to deal with people breaking the law and inconveniencing me.
  • scroogest
    scroogest Posts: 21 Forumite
    That actually sounds very reasonable behaviour on her part.

    £10 paid last year - is that a reasonable price for tresspassing? If your landlord gave you £10 and next year a gardener arrived and climbed over the fence/gate, you would find that acceptable?
  • scroogest
    scroogest Posts: 21 Forumite
    Why not just allow access for the gardener if you nare not allowed to do any gardening. Wouldn't that be easier?


    He is allowed to come only on Mondays as per the lease. If he wishes to come on any other day, the estate agents have to give us two days notice. Again, this is going by our lease.

    He did come on the Monday, and oddly enough, he did not water any plants- there are about 4 buckets of slimey, stinking water left over from whenever he last watered. They were untouched when we looked on Monday evening- hours after he had been to the property.

    However he did report to the estate agents/landlord that the plant was drying and then they told him to come along and tresspass basically. Why the sudden worry over a plant when he did not bother on the Monday when he came along as ordinarily scheduled?
  • Emmzi
    Emmzi Posts: 8,658 Forumite
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    honestly? I can't believe you're getting tense over this. Many people would be distressed at an uncared for tree dying in their garden ansd delighted ifd the gardener showed up.

    Has the gardener given you any cause to think he's doing anything other than gardening? If so, complain about that.

    Moving house is a very stressful time. Try not to let all the little niggles that build up turn into something worse than they really are. You will be moving soon anyway, as I read it? Be happy you are going, focus on making sure you leave the house in a nice condition and take lots of pictures should there be any dispute over the deposit.

    The garden is her concern, so let her worry about it.
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  • clutton_2
    clutton_2 Posts: 11,149 Forumite
    Emmzi - you have hit the nail on the head !
  • Running_Horse
    Running_Horse Posts: 11,809 Forumite
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    Best of luck in the new place, but you may find the next landlord even worse. It would be interesting to hear her side of the story, as it takes two to have an argument.
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