PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING: Hello Forumites! In order to help keep the Forum a useful, safe and friendly place for our users, discussions around non-MoneySaving matters are not permitted per the Forum rules. While we understand that mentioning house prices may sometimes be relevant to a user's specific MoneySaving situation, we ask that you please avoid veering into broad, general debates about the market, the economy and politics, as these can unfortunately lead to abusive or hateful behaviour. Threads that are found to have derailed into wider discussions may be removed. Users who repeatedly disregard this may have their Forum account banned. Please also avoid posting personally identifiable information, including links to your own online property listing which may reveal your address. Thank you for your understanding.
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

Mortgage on affordabillity not just mutiples?

I've been looking at various mortgage for a new property & there is a HUGE difference is what all the online calculators say we can borrow (approx)....as I've recently gone part time since returning to work after maternity leave, I think our best chance of getting a decent mortgage is to use a lender who look at affordability & dont just use multiples - as we have no other debt, I expect out crdit score to be good as we do use a c/card & o/draft but they are cleared every month, have no other commitments & all bills are paid on time.

Also should have said we're looking at 85% LTV & in mutiples terms we need 4.5% x joint income, is this achieveable?

my first q is are the online calculators on individual companies accurate ( just so I know its realistic - I expect they are I just worry!)
2. why do intermediary (NW/SANTANDER/HALIFAX) say we can borrow more, than the normal sites?
3. Am I best to see a broker?

Chelsea & virgin money sites show we can borrow what we're looking for.

Any help or tips would be greatly appreciated!

Comments

  • Duskylady
    Duskylady Posts: 80 Forumite
    Go and see a broker. This is where they are worth it and will be able to tell you if your likely to succeed. Check your credit score first though and your partners as mistakes on your file could scupper your plans completely.

    I needed to borrow 4x joint salary on a 90% mortgage and am able to do this (fingers crossed) but would have never found the couple of lenders on my own

    Also expect to get fewer options on rates etc.
  • kimbers84
    kimbers84 Posts: 28 Forumite
    Thankyou!
    We've checked our credit files already & everything is as is should be. Its just such a tough time, based on income as I went p/time after my maternity leave but when they go to school I will be increasing my hrs again (I def can do this I've checked) but we need to get in the catchement area before we apply!
    Thought we might get a rubbish rate but its really fortunate the rates are low as when a fixed rate finishes I'll be working more so if they go up we're ok!
    Headaches all round! Im a born worrier!!
  • ACG
    ACG Posts: 24,624 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper I've helped Parliament
    Most lenders now do it on affordability or a combination of income multiples and affordability - woolwich (barclays) for instance do upto 5.5x income but they also say at the end of each month you need to have £xxx amount left over - if you did not have the required amount left over you would have to reduce the borrowing down until it fit.

    The calculators are pretty accurate although i do tend to find its difficult to borrow the absolute maximum they say - they usually reduce it down by a grand or 2 on the few occasions i have tried to get the maximums.

    You sound like you have done a decent amount of research yourself already and are getting to grips with it. I wouldnt say you NEED a broker, but by using one they can not only find you a lender who will lend what your after but also at the best rate possible.

    Chelsea building society are part of YBS - i personally avoid them like the plague after the experiences i have had with them.... my blood pressure is only just starting to go back down and the hairline grow back :P
    I am a Mortgage Adviser
    You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a mortgage adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice.
  • tim123456789
    tim123456789 Posts: 1,787 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    It was (is) mortgage on affordability that got us into the mess we are in

    the sooner we drop it as a viable economic idea, the better

    tim
  • ACG
    ACG Posts: 24,624 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper I've helped Parliament
    It was (is) mortgage on affordability that got us into the mess we are in

    the sooner we drop it as a viable economic idea, the better

    tim
    If you dont think a mortgage should be based on affordability.... what do you think is a better idea?
    I am a Mortgage Adviser
    You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a mortgage adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice.
  • kimbers84
    kimbers84 Posts: 28 Forumite
    Thanks for all your comments, Im personally glad some are based on affordabiltiy not just mutiples, as some people (agreed not all) are responsible & careful with their money. We may not earn a mega bucks but we live within our means & save for anything we need as I'd rather not pay interest!!
    Can anyone recommend a good broker?
  • tim123456789
    tim123456789 Posts: 1,787 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    ACG wrote: »
    If you dont think a mortgage should be based on affordability.... what do you think is a better idea?

    well obviously it should at the bottom end

    I referring to using it to justify ever increasing multiples

    tim
  • ACG
    ACG Posts: 24,624 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper I've helped Parliament
    Different lenders have different methods which is a good thing as it means people who may not pass with one lender do with another.

    Were not allowed to recommend brokers on here - you never know if the person making the recommendation is somehow linked to that broker. My suggestion would be to avoid estate agent based brokers (they typically work for the estate agent and not you), but i would go on google and fine an independent or whole of market broker.

    Both can look at the whole of the market, independent means they have to offer an option to rebate any commission paid by the lender.
    I am a Mortgage Adviser
    You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a mortgage adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice.
  • kingstreet
    kingstreet Posts: 39,277 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    Some lenders take into account child benefit, working and child tax credits and some don't.

    You'll be taxed the cost of childcare and having dependents by some more than others.

    It's impossible to say what's possible without a detailed factfind and research.

    Conclusion - you need your own broker, offering whole market or independent mortgage advice...
    I am a mortgage broker. You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice. Please do not send PMs asking for one-to-one-advice, or representation.
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 351.3K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.2K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 453.7K Spending & Discounts
  • 244.2K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 599.4K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 177.1K Life & Family
  • 257.7K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.2K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.