800,000 UK Jobs advertised in Europe

falko89

dktreesea wrote: »

The Eures scheme only works for employers in countries within the EU that have signed up for the scheme. Britain has not only signed up - iut provides 13% of the funding for the scheme.

So, once you have offered a person a job under the scheme, and they have accepted, you can them apply to Brussels for a grant to help them settle in. The grants are around £870 per employee up to 20 employees. So around Eur$1,000 to the employer. The prospective employee can also get grant money, to cover the cost of attending an interview in the other country.

https://ec.europa.eu/eures/main.jsp?lang=en&acro=news&catId=20&parentId=0&function=focusOn&focusOnId=9828&fromHome=Y

If the government wanted British firms to hire British workers, then why did they sign up for the scheme?

We are being shafted.

Lith

Daedalus wrote: »

I work with several European immigrants, I don't see them as a threat, competition isn't a threat, it's a challenge.

I would step up, retrain, differentiate myself, what I have done to get where I am now.

Adapt or die.

Wait till Jan: 2014

VOTE UKIP

dharm999

dktreesea wrote: »

The Eures scheme only works for employers in countries within the EU that have signed up for the scheme. Britain has not only signed up - iut provides 13% of the funding for the scheme.

So, once you have offered a person a job under the scheme, and they have accepted, you can them apply to Brussels for a grant to help them settle in. The grants are around £870 per employee up to 20 employees. So around Eur$1,000 to the employer. The prospective employee can also get grant money, to cover the cost of attending an interview in the other country.

https://ec.europa.eu/eures/main.jsp?lang=en&acro=news&catId=20&parentId=0&function=focusOn&focusOnId=9828&fromHome=Y

If the government wanted British firms to hire British workers, then why did they sign up for the scheme?

The scheme referred to in the link says the grants are for employing 18-30 year olds only, so we arent talking about getting Eur1000 for all 800,000 vacancies, but a much smaller subset of this. Is there something else in place from the EU, that gives all jobseekers, regardless of age, grants for jobseeking, as well as a grant to an employer for taking them on? In principle surely this is a good thing, encouring anyone to get on his, or her, bike to find work? Surely the logical extension of this is to offer grants to young people in the UK to move somewhere else in the UK to find work? It costs a lot of money to move somewhere, and if there is help in place to ease that, then surely in the long run it costs the taxpayer less as we get someone off benefits and into work?

scooby088

There are some on these boards that are stuck in a rut and don't want to work and come up with loads of excuses of not wanting to work, and I guess that this will be used as another one.

Daedalus

scooby088 wrote: »

There are some on these boards that are stuck in a rut and don't want to work and come up with loads of excuses of not wanting to work, and I guess that this will be used as another one.

Pretty much. The people who are forever moaning about the Government or immigrants or banks are always the stereotypical people who want something for nothing, the people everyone knows would struggle to get a job even if we were at full employment.

Dunroamin

falko89 wrote: »

You're right yes. The vast majority of these migrants are unskilled or take unskilled jobs thus effecting the likes of myself. I don't know what exactly you do but imagine all these migrants where highly skilled, taking manager positions, PA positions, brain surgeons etc and drove your wage down to next to nothing, would you still be singing their praises?

Perhaps they don't spend all their time on the internet complaining that they haven't got a job and then do the same thing when they get one?;)

dktreesea

dharm999 wrote: »

The scheme referred to in the link says the grants are for employing 18-30 year olds only, so we arent talking about getting Eur1000 for all 800,000 vacancies, but a much smaller subset of this. Is there something else in place from the EU, that gives all jobseekers, regardless of age, grants for jobseeking, as well as a grant to an employer for taking them on? In principle surely this is a good thing, encouring anyone to get on his, or her, bike to find work? Surely the logical extension of this is to offer grants to young people in the UK to move somewhere else in the UK to find work? It costs a lot of money to move somewhere, and if there is help in place to ease that, then surely in the long run it costs the taxpayer less as we get someone off benefits and into work?

Yes, that's right, but these people are in direct competition with our school leavers for jobs. We have enough of our own school leavers out of work, without the EU getting in on the act by encouraging the rest of Europe to send up their unemployed youngsters. If I thought it would work equally the other way, i.e. with our youngsters getting jobs all over Europe, then maybe, but I doubt that would happen. People coming here are getting an NMW that is probably way above what they would get in their own countries, especially anyone coming from Eastern or Southern Europe.

andygb

Daedalus wrote: »

That was my understanding, that the reason our number of vacancies are so high is because our Government run job site has so many vacancies compared to less developed sites of other EU states.


Find a source for this money, show that it doesn't apply to British workers moving to an EU state for work. We focus on immigration so much, what about emigration? 'Brain drain' is a real thing, many of our top and brightest are leaving for better opportunities in the EU.

So why have I, as a 55 year old, well educated male, with a solid 35 years job experience, not had any replies/feedback from any jobs which I have applied for on the site in the last two years?
I also find it very strange, that the number of vacancies has risen from some 450,000 to over 800,000 - as an accountant, I would hate to put that down to "creative statistics".

Daedalus

andygb wrote: »

So why have I, as a 55 year old, well educated male, with a solid 35 years job experience, not had any replies/feedback from any jobs which I have applied for on the site in the last two years?
I also find it very strange, that the number of vacancies has risen from some 450,000 to over 800,000 - as an accountant, I would hate to put that down to "creative statistics".

Are you asking me to speculate on what card you're holding in your hand which I suspect depends on what ever card I say you have?

You will have a bad CV.

Lieja

Employers can claim over £2000 for employing a young British person who has been unemployed for a certain amount of time, so our school leavers are actually in a better position, incentive-wise.

I am perfectly happy to be able to move to the continent for work, so why shouldn't people from elsewhere in Europe be able to do the same here?