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I don't like card readers

I used to use santander which was easy to log into just with numbers. I decided to change to nationwide because it's a building society and like that idea better than a bank only out for profits.

However the nationwide requires me to use a card reader to get onto online banking, which I am finding a total pain.

So thinking of changing again and wondering which other banks definitely don't use these card readers? I'd rather just remember my ID numbers than have to carry this thing around!
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  • rb10
    rb10 Posts: 6,334 Forumite
    You don't have to use a card reader with Nationwide!

    On the right hand side of the log in page, just click on the big yellow box that says 'Log in with memorable data' - you then use one of your three memorable data items, plus three random digits from your passnumber.

    If you don't know your memorable data and/or passnumber, then you can reset these with your cardreader.

    You will occasionally need a cardreader when making transactions, especially if they are to a new payee. But it soon 'learns' your behaviour, and I hardly ever need to use mine now.
  • ColdIron
    ColdIron Posts: 10,330 Forumite
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    Personally I quite like card readers and the extra security they afford. Even if I didn't like them I'm not sure I would base my decision on whether to use an account or not on that alone

    However the following banks use them so I guess anyone except these would fit your requirements

    Barclays Bank
    Ulster Bank
    NatWest
    Co-operative Bank and Smile
    Royal Bank of Scotland
    Nationwide
    HSBC (non-CAP)
  • Gromitt
    Gromitt Posts: 5,063 Forumite
    Another solution if you don't want to carry the card reader around but know you'll need internet banking access is to simply write down a few codes from your card reader before you go. Obviously less secure though than memorising a PIN (but they also need your customer id as well), and doesn't work to setup new transactions (the same as using memorable information).

    But in some ways more secure, as you'll always be logging in with different information every time, so key grabbers on public PCs get a hard time.
  • zerog
    zerog Posts: 2,478 Forumite
    rb10 wrote: »
    You will occasionally need a cardreader when making transactions, especially if they are to a new payee. But it soon 'learns' your behaviour, and I hardly ever need to use mine now.

    I transfer in £800 a month to keep the FlexAcount active, and then transfer it out soon affterwards to the same account each month, but I still need to use the card reader each time. (i.e if I log in without the card reader, it will make me use it to do the transaction, but if I log in with the card reader it won't)
  • You-kip
    You-kip Posts: 499 Forumite
    Barclays you don't need a Card Reader.
  • ColdIron
    ColdIron Posts: 10,330 Forumite
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    You-kip wrote: »
    Barclays you don't need a Card Reader.

    You do if you want to set up a payment to someone new by 'signing' it using their account number and the amount

    http://www.barclays.co.uk/Helpsupport/UpgradetoPINsentry/P1242559314766
  • You-kip
    You-kip Posts: 499 Forumite
    ColdIron wrote: »
    You do if you want to set up a payment to someone new by 'signing' it using their account number and the amount

    http://www.barclays.co.uk/Helpsupport/UpgradetoPINsentry/P1242559314766

    How many times do you think people set up payments to someone new.

    I haven't used my Barclays card reader for months and transfer money in & out of my account and make payments to people on my payment lists etc.
  • elsien
    elsien Posts: 37,534 Forumite
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    Natwest do use a card reader, but I've only used it two or three times in the last couple of years when setting up new payments. The majority of my online transactions I just log in and carry on as normal.
    I would guess that the majority of banks are the same.
    All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well.

    Pedant alert - it's could have, not could of.
  • pmduk
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    Gromitt wrote: »
    Another solution if you don't want to carry the card reader around but know you'll need internet banking access is to simply write down a few codes from your card reader before you go.

    Does this actually work? I understood the codes were time-related and wouldn't work unless used immediately?
  • ColdIron
    ColdIron Posts: 10,330 Forumite
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    pmduk wrote: »
    Does this actually work? I understood the codes were time-related and wouldn't work unless used immediately?
    Works just fine, they are not tied to date or time although they are sequenced. If you generate a list and skip one of them you can't go back and use it
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