PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING: Hello Forumites! In order to help keep the Forum a useful, safe and friendly place for our users, discussions around non-MoneySaving matters are not permitted per the Forum rules. While we understand that mentioning house prices may sometimes be relevant to a user's specific MoneySaving situation, we ask that you please avoid veering into broad, general debates about the market, the economy and politics, as these can unfortunately lead to abusive or hateful behaviour. Threads that are found to have derailed into wider discussions may be removed. Users who repeatedly disregard this may have their Forum account banned. Please also avoid posting personally identifiable information, including links to your own online property listing which may reveal your address. Thank you for your understanding.
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

Shared Ownership & Stamp Duty Fee, HELP

Hi, guys, I'm very confuse of the situation we have atm, I'm urger for help.

We're recently bought a shared ownership house with 25% share. According to our solicitor that we have to pay about £1999 Stamp duty fee. By my understanding is that ppl do not need to pay any stamp duty fee if their purchase price is under £125,000. But according to my solicitor, that the leasehold agreement states that stamp duty needed to be paid at full market value.

Background:

25% shared ownership for £45,000

Full market value: £180,000

I would be very appreciated for any advise,, thank u for ur time.

Comments

  • dumpallhere
    dumpallhere Posts: 272 Forumite
    Seventh Anniversary Combo Breaker
    edited 26 July 2013 at 6:57PM
    SDLT on a shared ownership property -> How SDLT is calculated on a shared ownership lease

    JC509 wrote: »
    the leasehold agreement states that stamp duty needed to be paid at full market value.
    So, can the leasehold agreement be changed to accommodate the option that suits you best (i.e.- paying SDLT in stages)?
  • JC509
    JC509 Posts: 47 Forumite
    SDLT on a shared ownership property -> How SDLT is calculated on a shared ownership lease


    So, can the leasehold agreement be changed to accommodate the option that suits you best (i.e.- paying SDLT in stages)?

    My solicitor is checking it with the vendor atm, but she don't thinks they will change it. :( This is really not fair, what if in the future we do not want to buy the rest of the share but we have already pay the full market value stamp duty fee and its not refundable. :(
  • richardw
    richardw Posts: 19,459 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts
    Is it a lease or under lease you are getting?
    Is the HA the freeholder ?
    Posts are not advice and must not be relied upon.
  • BMW_Mike
    BMW_Mike Posts: 18 Forumite
    I have to say this is tricky one - The Gov Web site details how Stamp Duty is calculated on a Share to Buy House, there is a choice, pay it all up front - or pay in parts, from initial purchase then on the transaction that takes you over 80% of the value of the house.

    The lease we have lets us have the choice - We have gone for the initial option - who knows we might sell it before we staircase to 80%, - anything could happen.

    I guess if it is a term of the lease, - it is a bit pedantic in that you are trying to buy an affordable home, then have to stomp up the full Stamp duty, it's unfortunate but there is little to be done.

    Whether you or your lawyer could challenge the terms of the lease - maybe but it would be tricky.
  • When we bought our shared ownership flat we only paid Stamp Duty on the portion that we were buying. Turned out our portion was £126,500 so we paid 1% stamp duty on that . If it had been £124,999 we would not have had to pay any stamp duty.

    If you decide to staircase later on, then you will have to pay stamp duty on your existing part and the new portion you are buying if your total share then exceeds £125,000.
  • Tjrw1985
    Tjrw1985 Posts: 302 Forumite
    That is not true at all sarah.

    You would not have to pay stamp duty on the part you already own if it is below the threshold.

    You only pay the SDLT on the part that takes you over 80%. (i.e you buy 50% (£80k)of a house worth £160k FMV, No stamp duty is due) You then staircase to 100% (for arguments sake the value has not changed) so you pay 1% on the second £80k (£800) not 1% on the £160k.
    Debt free as of 7.20am on 31st December 2012.

    Wow. Feels great :j :beer:
  • gaz141
    gaz141 Posts: 110 Forumite
    when I bought mine last year, I had the option of paying nothing as my share was under the threshold (which I did) but with the understanding that if I did one day staircase then I had to pay stamp duty on whatever value the property was worth or I could have paid the stamp duty on the full value of the property at the time of purchase, therefore if I ever did staircase then there was no stamp duty to pay, even if my flat had increased in value into the next stamp duty bracket.
  • JC509
    JC509 Posts: 47 Forumite
    Thank you guys, I was told by our solicitor that we HAVE to pay stamp duty fee and there's no way out. Then I rang the housing association who are owning the other 75% of the property. They told me straight away that I was right, we did not have to pay the stamp duty fee and we have an option whether to pay it now or later when we buying more share. It was our solicitor's mistake and she didn't fully undertand the contract.
    Thank god!!:)
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 351.3K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.2K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 453.7K Spending & Discounts
  • 244.2K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 599.4K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 177.1K Life & Family
  • 257.7K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.2K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.