UKCPS - Parking Ticket for Parking is a disabled bay

jbriers

Hi All,

New to this thread. Wondering if anyone can give me some advice.

Parked in an empty car park last night at the Red Dragon Centre in Cardiff. However, I parked in a disabled bay and was issued a ticket at 20.35.

On their ticket it says you must appeal in seven working days by writing or e-mail. I have just e-mailed them and got an auto response saying it must be writing.

Anything I can do?

Guys_Dad

Bad move.

You should have waited for the Notice to Keeper.

Wait for that before you appeal, but in the meantime, please check out the signage to ensure it is compliant with the British Parking Association Code of Practice.

nigelbb

Not so unlucky as the automated response means that the OP can now wait until a Notice to Keeper arrives between 28 & 56 days after the date of the "parking crime".

Coupon-mad

jbriers wrote: »

Hi All,

New to this thread. Wondering if anyone can give me some advice.

Parked in an empty car park last night at the Red Dragon Centre in Cardiff. However, I parked in a disabled bay and was issued a ticket at 20.35.

On their ticket it says you must appeal in seven working days by writing or e-mail. I have just e-mailed them and got an auto response saying it must be writing.

Anything I can do?

What you can do is NEVER park in a disabled bay if you don't need it. As well as helping people fight these scam fake PCNs, I also fight the corner of disabled motorists and hate to read about people 'just parking in a disabled bay because it was an empty car park'. So what was your excuse? Laziness?

RANT OVER. NOW THE REALITY ABOUT THIS FAKE PCN:

UKCPS take people to court over this, and the last one on pepipoo LOST:

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=76790

So the best thing you can do is read other recent UKCPS threads on here and on pepipoo and learn about UKCPS' little games (if you'd read any recent 2013 threads about them you would have known they do not accept email appeals even though the fake PCN says they do). They are also notoriously bad at giving POPLA codes (which is what you need to win the appeal).

Not sure what I mean? Read any threads on either here or pepipoo parking forum while you await your letter to the registered keeper in the post (as long as yours is not a company/hire car). Learn about what UKCPS do, and how to win at POPLA. Let us know when you get the first letter.

jbriers

Hi guys,

Thanks for your responses.

The car is a company car. How does this change things? I parked in the disabled bay because I was unloading a large object for one of the company shops at this centre. As it was late at night and the car park was near empty I thought that this would be ok. I am not going to lie I did go for something to eat after I had dropped into one of the shops so I have to hold my hand up there.

JanetAS

jbriers wrote: »

Hi guys,

Thanks for your responses.

The car is a company car. How does this change things? I parked in the disabled bay because I was unloading a large object for one of the company shops at this centre. As it was late at night and the car park was near empty I thought that this would be ok. I am not going to lie I did go for something to eat after I had dropped into one of the shops so I have to hold my hand up there.

There you go then! Surely a waste of time putting this post on the forum? :mad:

jbriers

why is it a waste of time?

zzzLazyDaisy

You had better check your employment contract / employee handbook/ company car policy fast, because it is highly likely that if you wait for the notice to keeper to be set to your employer, they will very likely pay the fee and deduct it from your wages.

Most employers don't want to be bothered with this sort of thing, so unless you have a good relationship with a smallish company who are willing to support you in appealing to the PPC and then to POPLA, you will need to appeal the windscreen ticket as the driver.

Wait for Coupon - Mad or one of the other regular posters to come back and advise you what to do in this situation.

Stroma

jbriers wrote: »

Hi guys,

Thanks for your responses.

The car is a company car. How does this change things? I parked in the disabled bay because I was unloading a large object for one of the company shops at this centre. As it was late at night and the car park was near empty I thought that this would be ok. I am not going to lie I did go for something to eat after I had dropped into one of the shops so I have to hold my hand up there.

Please appeal immediately in writing, take this away from your company and lease company, send it with proof of postage is free at post offices. Is this ukcps ? Use this




Name
Address

Date

Dear Scammers,

In reference to the speculative invoice xxxxxx dated xxxxxx, the keeper denies all liability to your company as it is an unlawful punitive charge, thus a penalty! If you reject this challenge the keeper requires within 35 days a popla verification code for them to appeal independently, per Version 3 of the BPA Code of Practice.

The keeper has nothing further to add, and will not respond to any generic correspondence from your company unless it contains the popla code, furthermore the keeper is fully aware that you must pay £27+Vat for this, so don't forget!

The challenge will be deemed accepted if there is no popla code on any rejection that you supply within the time-frame stipulated above.

Yours Faithfully

Your name (printed)

Guys_Dad

Don't agree.

This appeal letter has already failed to get a POPLA code recently and opens a dialogue with the keeper which is your company.

Instead, you want the PPC to respond to you and for your company to be brought up to speed and told you are dealing with it.

I would therefore change the appeal to say that you are the temporary keeper. I would then say that you do not believe that the contract they have with the landowner grants them the authority to pursue charges and either send you the contract or the POPLA code. Copy your letter to your company.

Stroma

I disagree Guys Dad, this is only about getting it away from the company, you say it's failed, you are going on a few posts on here. You can't have it all ways, you have proof that they have this as they will respond turning it down.