Cpm uk ltd and debt collectors..... Help!

Guys_Dad

Get back to basics.

You deny the charge. Your car did display a permit. It is up to them to prove that you didn't. If their photographs fail to do that, then they are in bother.

If you have just one witness who says you did, and their visual evidence fails to support their claim, it's 2 people's word against a company whose direct interest is in getting money from you.

Write something like that back.

zzzLazyDaisy

Gem1979 wrote: »

Just an update, I had a 2nd letter this morning giving me a further 2 weeks to pay debt recovery plus the money or they will recommend to their clients solicitors that they take me to court and inviting me to view details on their site of others who have been successfully prosecuted. It is headed 'notice of intended court action' are they just trying to disguise this as something official or is this a letter before action that isn't correctly worded. Sure it's a bully boy scare letter but I don't want to ignore the wrong thing!

Don't get sucked in. You can expect a letter before action to come from the PPC, or a firm of solicitors acting on behalf of the PPC. A notice of intended litigation from a debt collector is of no more significance than the Beano (actually can you still get the Beano or am I showing my age? )

Gem1979

Is it important that I didn't have a ticket on my car and the first time they say that they wrote (never received it) was after nearly 2 months? They do claim the ticket was stuck on the windscreen but it isn't shown in any of the photos they sent of my car in the pitch black with frosted windows.

Gem1979

zzzLazyDaisy wrote: »

Don't get sucked in. You can expect a letter before action to come from the PPC, or a firm of solicitors acting on behalf of the PPC. A notice of intended litigation from a debt collector is of no more significance than the Beano (actually can you still get the Beano or am I showing my age? )

I think you can get the beano! Thank you very much for your advice, it's a real help as I obviously have no legal expertise whatsoever.

Stroma

Gem think about it, if this went to court and you were say in front of a judge and said, this parking company sent me a notice to keeper to my address at that is registered with the dvla, that address is within the complex. I was parked in my parking bay, there is no loss to the landowner/tenant as that is me.

Now what do you think the judge will say? Do you seriously think that he will find for a third party company that doesn't have your permission to trespass on your land? This will never go to court as they don't have a leg to stand on, how could they when their whole basis of a claim is a lie?

Hovite_2

Gem - you can just continue to ignore BUT it's obvious from your posts that you are still worried.

I'm assuming you hold a leasehold rather than a freehold on the flat ?

If so then write a letter / email to the managing agents telling them that THEY are responsible for THEIR agents ( CPM ) and unless THEY order CPM to stop harassing you that you will sue both CPM and the Managing Agents jointly. THEY are liable. If you have a residents committee table a proposal to have both CPM and the Managing agents kicked out at the next AGM and tell the Managing Agents this.

If on the other hand you own the freehold, speak to the other freeholders and persuade them to agree to kicking out both parties immediately. Then serve notice on both parties that their contracts are to be terminated after x months ( find out the cancellation period from the original contracts ).

Most of all, stop worrying - even if they did take you to court ( which they won't ) they would lose hands down.

Computersaysno

IIRC the Dandy has closed but the Beano is still going.

Guys_Dad

And, of course, why would a warden with a camera who sent you photographs not send one with the ticket attached????

Gem1979

Hovite wrote: »

Gem - you can just continue to ignore BUT it's obvious from your posts that you are still worried.

I'm assuming you hold a leasehold rather than a freehold on the flat ?

If so then write a letter / email to the managing agents telling them that THEY are responsible for THEIR agents ( CPM ) and unless THEY order CPM to stop harassing you that you will sue both CPM and the Managing Agents jointly. THEY are liable. If you have a residents committee table a proposal to have both CPM and the Managing agents kicked out at the next AGM and tell the Managing Agents this.

If on the other hand you own the freehold, speak to the other freeholders and persuade them to agree to kicking out both parties immediately. Then serve notice on both parties that their contracts are to be terminated after x months ( find out the cancellation period from the original contracts ).

Most of all, stop worrying - even if they did take you to court ( which they won't ) they would lose hands down.

It is lease hold, even if a non resident parked in that area with no permit there would be no financial loss to anyone as there is no paid parking within 2 miles of the flat you just have to park a road or so down which is an inconvenience not an expense. Ill keep you guys updated and once again thank you for taking the time to read this and reassure me.

Gem1979

Hi, they won't go away!! I had another letter saying that in order to comply with pre court practise they were offering a reduced payment of £119. I ignored that as I'm pretty sure they are not obliged to offer a reduced rate and so it wasn't anything to do with compliance and I have now had another letter this time from zenith collections demanding £79.99. I don't understand why another company is now involved. Are they the same people? Surely they can't pretend to be someone else?!