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UK needs +7 Million immigrants to keep debt down

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  • TruckerT
    TruckerT Posts: 1,714 Forumite
    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    Mass migration simply isn't feasible to cope with. Freedom of movement sounds a wonderful concept. However with it also comes social unrest, particularly at times of economic woe as is the case now.

    I wonder how the OBR economists managed to assign a number to the human consequences of mass migration.

    TruckerT
    According to Clapton, I am a totally ignorant idiot.
  • antrobus
    antrobus Posts: 17,386 Forumite
    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    Mass migration simply isn't feasible to cope with. Freedom of movement sounds a wonderful concept. However with it also comes social unrest, particularly at times of economic woe as is the case now.

    Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine.
  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
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    TruckerT wrote: »
    I wonder how the OBR economists managed to assign a number to the human consequences of mass migration.

    Where in the UK can we build 7 new Birmingham's.......?
  • antrobus
    antrobus Posts: 17,386 Forumite
    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    Where in the UK can we build 7 new Birmingham's.......?

    There appear to be 48 countries in the world with a higher population density than the UK. If we had the same population density as the Netherlands we could fit in another 30 million people at least.

    http://www.indexmundi.com/g/r.aspx?v=21000
  • Thrugelmir
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    antrobus wrote: »
    There appear to be 48 countries in the world with a higher population density than the UK. If we had the same population density as the Netherlands we could fit in another 30 million people at least.

    http://www.indexmundi.com/g/r.aspx?v=21000

    Is that based on usable land mass?
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH Posts: 28,592 Forumite
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    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    Where in the UK can we build 7 new Birmingham's.......?

    That wold only require taking the percentage of the UK with buildings on it from 3% to 3.5%.

    I think we can spare half a percent of the land in the UK to ensure our future financial and economic wellbeing.;)
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • TruckerT
    TruckerT Posts: 1,714 Forumite
    antrobus wrote: »
    Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine.

    Yo cleverclogs - you know Latin as well as Economics!

    Enoch Powell was in a previous 30-year lifetime.

    Latin has long been regarded as superfluous to the modern world.

    Let's replace 'Thybrim' with 'MSE', and see if the way forward becomes any more clear...

    TruckerT
    According to Clapton, I am a totally ignorant idiot.
  • TruckerT
    TruckerT Posts: 1,714 Forumite
    That wold only require taking the percentage of the UK with buildings on it from 3% to 3.5%.

    I think we can spare half a percent of the land in the UK to ensure our future financial and economic wellbeing.;)

    I reckon Scotland could easily find space for 7 Birminghams.

    TruckerT
    According to Clapton, I am a totally ignorant idiot.
  • Sampong
    Sampong Posts: 870 Forumite
    antrobus wrote: »
    There appear to be 48 countries in the world with a higher population density than the UK. If we had the same population density as the Netherlands we could fit in another 30 million people at least.

    http://www.indexmundi.com/g/r.aspx?v=21000

    Do the more densely populated have the same level as multiculturalism as the UK?
  • antrobus
    antrobus Posts: 17,386 Forumite
    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    Is that based on usable land mass?

    Don't know. Does it matter?

    If we had the same population density as San Marino we could fit in twice as many people. And San Marino's terrain is described as "rugged mountains" which sounds a bit less usable than the UK's "mostly rugged hills and low mountains; level to rolling plains in east and southeast".

    The point; if we had to find room for another 7 million, we could.
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