Failed Electrical Report - who pays?

ValHaller

witchy1066 wrote: »

they did say it was illegal not to have it an earthing point ,

Now there is a word which is frequently abused.

witchy1066

that is just what I thought at the time Valhaller

I actually said to him , what do they do, send out the "no earthing point police"

sophiec83

Thanks all for your responses.

The Main issue has been addressed, thankfully (the missing earthing point) but the other things outstanding are:

1. Wall lights in living room are conductive but not earthed and have no provision for earthing

2. Two cables clipped on wall of boiler cupboard are not live but registering some connection to the electrical installation 9they disappear under the floorboards so electrician couldn't immediately see what they were of)

3. Socket in shed not on RCD

4. Spurs off spurs on ring main not fused (not sure what this means!)

He has categorised all of these jobs as 'Potentially Dangerous.' (Immediate remedial action required)

WellKnownSid

sophiec83 wrote: »

the other things outstanding are:

1. Wall lights in living room are conductive but not earthed and have no provision for earthing

There are websites that specialise in class II lighting - so it may be just a case of swapping the wall lights for something more appropriate. It does depend on other factors.

sophiec83 wrote: »

2. Two cables clipped on wall of boiler cupboard are not live but registering some connection to the electrical installation 9they disappear under the floorboards so electrician couldn't immediately see what they were of)

How did they assess there was an electrical connection? A glow-tester or an actual meter wired in to the cables? Glow testers are wildly poor ways of assessing whether cables are live or not.

sophiec83 wrote: »

3. Socket in shed not on RCD

Hopefully a simple fix, providing you have sufficient capacity in the existing cable, the consumer unit (fusebox), and it's safely routed.

sophiec83 wrote: »

4. Spurs off spurs on ring main not fused (not sure what this means!)

In the grand scheme of things, this might be serious - resulting in a fire if sections of the ring final circuit are inadvertently overloaded.

Tell me, did they actually call it a 'ring main'?

sophiec83

Thanks for the reply! Yes, I've just copied extracts from the report as he wrote it. On the phone he also referred to overloading... He's getting me a quote for the work so we'll soon have some idea of how big a job it is

TheSaxon

I'm with Well Known Sid on this one. A lot of easy fixes.

1. Class II fixtures

2. Doesnt seem appropiate to put on without sufficient testing. Could be a switched live from an extended thermostat to call for heat from the boiler. or could be a 100 different things.

3. Worst case the socket could just be disconnected from the supply if the cable is incorrect size, cable is run incorrectly etc.

4. Could possibly be easily fixed if all the cables can be identified (no wooden flooring upstairs). It should be called a Ring Final Circuit.

Its been a while since I worked in a Domestic environment but I believe none of the above works would fall under Part P regulations so would not need to be notified to building control, this would also keep the cost down. Forgive me if I'm wrong

sophiec83

Thanks Saxon, that's reassuring.

We've agreed t our electrician giving a quote for the work and the vendors also getting one done so hopefully this will help us reach an agreement soon.