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Fibre Broadband - how

I have a simple question
With fast broadband - FTTC - Is each individual cabinet connected to the exchange on a dedicated fibre line or do they Tee off existing lines ?
The reason for this question is that BT have stopped upgrading cabinets 100 yards from my house and tell me that due to financial reasons - they are stopping at this point - leaving me with an unreliable max 4Mbps - rather than a reliable 40Mbps had I lived 100 yards away !!
My ISP (Talk Talk) are unable to help - because the contract is totally down to (useless) BT !!

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  • macman
    macman Posts: 53,129 Forumite
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    If they don't anticipate enough uptake to justify the costs of upgrading a cabinet to fibre, then they won't do it. Simple as that.
    Same approach as whether to LLU an exchange.
    Do you have VM cable as an alternative?
    No free lunch, and no free laptop ;)
  • kwikbreaks
    kwikbreaks Posts: 9,187 Forumite
    Each phone cabinet is paired with a powered box that handles the VDSL signals carrying the broadband and is fed with its own fibre back to equipment in the telephone exchange.
  • 50Twuncle
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    macman wrote: »
    If they don't anticipate enough uptake to justify the costs of upgrading a cabinet to fibre, then they won't do it. Simple as that.
    Same approach as whether to LLU an exchange.
    Do you have VM cable as an alternative?

    No cable - it was recommended that I look at satellite broadband instead - which costs too much to even consider

    The governments suggestion is that 95% of Britain will be connected to Superfast broadband by 2015 looks doubtful - and when they quote this figure - they clearly don't mean any more than at least one person in 95% of britains streets !!
  • 50Twuncle
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    kwikbreaks wrote: »
    Each phone cabinet is paired with a powered box that handles the VDSL signals carrying the broadband and is fed with its own fibre back to equipment in the telephone exchange.

    So each cabinet has a DEDICATED fibre back to the exchange ?
  • espresso
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    21Twinkle wrote: »
    I have a simple question
    With fast broadband - FTTC - Is each individual cabinet connected to the exchange on a dedicated fibre line or do they Tee off existing lines ?
    The reason for this question is that BT have stopped upgrading cabinets 100 yards from my house and tell me that due to financial reasons - they are stopping at this point

    It depends which cab your line is connected to. Most customers will be connected to a cab much further away than 100 yards - some ten times that distance!

    The broadband availability checker here will tell you which cab you are connected to and you will find that they are all labelled.
    :doh: Blue text on this forum usually signifies hyperlinks, so click on them!..:wall:
  • 50Twuncle
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    edited 20 July 2013 at 11:15AM
    espresso wrote: »
    It depends which cab your line is connected to. Most customers will be connected to a cab much further away than 100 yards - some ten times that distance!

    The broadband availability checker here will tell you which cab you are connected to and you will find that they are all labelled.




    Thanks - I know which cabinet I am connected to - and this cabinet has been decreed as not financially viable to upgrade by BT (it is less than 100 yards away from my front door) - the nearest upgraded cabinet is a little further (still less than 200 yards)
    I live in a small country town (expanding rapidly) - but BT are not even trying to meet the demands of the local inhabitants by upgrading all the boxes to fibre - I wander the local streets and see labels on ALL the surrounding boxes "FAST FIBRE AVAILABLE HERE NOW" then return to my 4Mbps connection extremely disheartened - I live in a 20th century island surrounded by 21st century internet connections
    I can understand why people who live a hundred yards up a narrow farm lane are not upgraded - but I live in a semi in a normal residential street with no hope of getting a decent connection EVER !!
  • 50Twuncle
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    So - they don't have to dig a 2 mile trench to get a fibre back to the exchange from each individual box ?
    That is what BT appears to be implying in their email response to me !!
  • kwikbreaks
    kwikbreaks Posts: 9,187 Forumite
    21Twinkle wrote: »
    So each cabinet has a DEDICATED fibre back to the exchange ?
    Yes. Local bandwidth capcity is way way higher than you get with VM cable.

    There could be a number of reasons your cabinet wasn't upgraded - anticipated demand is one but it could be provision of power or maybe there is no pre-existing duct they can blow the fibre through.
  • 50Twuncle
    50Twuncle Posts: 10,763 Forumite
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    kwikbreaks wrote: »
    Yes. Local bandwidth capcity is way way higher than you get with VM cable.

    There could be a number of reasons your cabinet wasn't upgraded - anticipated demand is one but it could be provision of power or maybe there is no pre-existing duct they can blow the fibre through.

    I have asked my local authority for funding - watch this space.....
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