Forestry Commission PCN

Hovite_2

haremscarem wrote: »

Okay thanks for the info, I haven't posted on PePiPoo yet, just initial research. I will see what they come back with over there.

If they want the £3.50, that's fine. Anything above is just pushing their luck in my eyes.

I would certainly post on Pepipoo just to be sure.

Coupon-mad

haremscarem wrote: »

Okay, so I went to the Pay/Appeal page this morning and I was met with this after three attempts and making sure it was all correct.


"The Parking Reminder Notice could not be found. Please check that you have not mistyped.
If the details are correct and the PRN was issued very recently then it is pending entry onto this system.
You can pay the amount owing now or you can search again at a later date."

It was issued on the 7/7/13

So, plenty of time... What do?

The byelaw 5(xxxi) 1982 it is an offence for any person to willfully evade payment of any charges or tolls levied by the Commissioners for the use of the car parks or forest roads and the Commission is entitled to prosecute for breaches of the Forestry Commissions byelaws through the magistrates courts.

Does the ticket have the word 'penalty' in the heading, or 'Excess Charge' and who does it say you have to make payment or appeal to, what name & address?

haremscarem

Coupon-mad wrote: »

Does the ticket have the word 'penalty' in the heading, or 'Excess Charge' and who does it say you have to make payment or appeal to, what name & address?

It states on the top 'PARKING CHARGE NOTICE'


It says to pay the forestry commission, not to pay a warden or any ranger on site but either online at https://www.forestry.gov.uk/parking

phone 01604 625625

Post Forestry Commission, PO Box 597, Northampton, NN4 7XN

The appeal option is on the website at the same address whic is marked 'Pay/Appeal'

Upon putting the details on the ticket in, that page comes up stating not found. I have the option to pay anyway but there are no details other than what I have put in. Seems like an honesty box type method to me.

Coupon-mad

So if it doesn't have penalty in the title it may not be covered by byelaws. A 'Parking Charge' is just a fake one like Supermarket ones.

I would wait and see what letter arrives which is the usual advice, then you will know if they are saying the ticket is issued under the Protection of Freedoms Act or the byelaws. Do nothing until a letter arrives, IMHO.

haremscarem

Okay, I must add that although I know it is on the driver, the vehicle is not mine but in fact a work vehicle. So it's registered as a commercial vehicle.

It also has no signature of the issuing ranger, just his number '02'

I will upload a picture link now, see if that works to better identify the type of ticket.

haremscarem

These will be live for about half an hour.

http://img42.com/ZtlD4 back

http://img42.com/3Qcob front

The_Slithy_Tove

haremscarem wrote: »

Okay, I must add that although I know it is on the driver, the vehicle is not mine but in fact a work vehicle. So it's registered as a commercial vehicle.

The registered keeper will get the Notice to Keeper. If that's a lease company, you run a risk that they'll (attempt to) charge you for the pleasure of passing the notice on, or worse, they may pay it and expect you to pay it, plus an admin fee, even though (if it's a private ticket), it won't be covered under their terms & conditions.

Unless you know the person who the NtK will come to, and can intercept it, it may be best to appeal yourself. Especially as if they decide it's a Byelaw issue, then they may well pay up.

Who exactly does it say issued the ticket. Is it a PPC acting on behalf of the Forestry Commission, or is it done by the FC themselves? If the FC are issuing it as a private ticket, don't they need to be in the BPA AOS to get the keeper details?

haremscarem

It's the company I work for, they know I use the van and are aware of the ticket. I suppose it was a pointless omission by me really.

The ticket is issued by 'forest rangers or officers appointed by teh forestry commission' according to the back of the ticket.

You can view the ticket and screenshot on the PePiPoo website on this thread http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=81239&st=0&gopid=845822&#entry845822

verityboo

The address on the ticket is the same as this company

http://www.carparkingpartnership.co.uk/

haremscarem

Hmmmm very interesting. I am trying to find out who issued the ticket from a friend, apparently I have heard on the grapevine that he knows the person who issued it.