MOT (passed too easily?)

[Deleted User]

thanks to most of you for the helpful replies.

however i have to point out (to some of you) that mocking OPs will only decrease your credibility - it's not very fair to the OP too, who, after all, posted because he/she does not know.

so let's try and keep this forum a place where honest questions can be asked, ok?

Lum

Unfortunately on the motors forum, there are a few people who do that. If you stick around, you'll soon learn which people are helpful but condescending and which are just idiots.

You have to realise that we get a lot of people turning up here looking to claim compo for the most asinine things, many of which, if successful, put everybody's car insurance or running costs up, we also get quite a few trolls who regularly register new accounts, so there is always going to be some suspicion of new posters.

If you do stick around, you'll see we really aren't all that bad! Just stay out of arguments about speed cameras or daytime running lights

eschaton

Deleted_User wrote: »

hi all

my other half has an approved used mini cooper which came with a free mot (and free mot repairs) at 6 mths as part of the purchase. well we went back to the dealer and got it serviced and mot'd, and it passed with flying colours (without any advisory notes etc).

the car is now in another garage 4 months later, (but hardly used as we have a new car - i.e. <300miles on the clock since the mot) and they have found, incidentally, that both rear brake pads are worn to only 2mm (legal limit is 1.5mm) and brake discs significantly corroded.

we plan to take this written report to the dealership who did the mot, and ask them to replace the brake pads/discs for free.

what should we do if they refuse? i have a feeling they will refuse, given the above!

thanks!

I can see why many have commented in the way that they have.

If you wanted a car that would hopefully need no money spent after 10 months then your wife should have bought a new one.

Also, if the car is doing less than 300 miles in 4 months then you should sell it. Between depreciation and running costs (insurance, tax, maintenance etc..), a taxi or hire car would be cheaper when the car is required.

red_eye

Deleted_User wrote: »

hi all

my other half has an approved used mini cooper which came with a free mot (and free mot repairs) at 6 mths as part of the purchase. well we went back to the dealer and got it serviced and mot'd, and it passed with flying colours (without any advisory notes etc).

the car is now in another garage 4 months later, (but hardly used as we have a new car - i.e. <300miles on the clock since the mot) and they have found, incidentally, that both rear brake pads are worn to only 2mm (legal limit is 1.5mm) and brake discs significantly corroded.

we plan to take this written report to the dealership who did the mot, and ask them to replace the brake pads/discs for free.

what should we do if they refuse? i have a feeling they will refuse, given the above!

thanks!

the problem is all testers have different opinions and own way of performing the test. as you have said there is 2mm left they cant fail but should have made an advisory note

colino

Why should there be an advisory at 2mm? Reason for rejection is 1.5mm, so should they make up rules that 2, 3 or 4mm is an acceptable advisory? There isn't one and only novice testers or centres trying to drum up business scatter the slip with a load of, I know it passed, but this might, at some undetermined point in the future, become a fail.

Blackjack_Davy

What on earth are you worried about? If the MOT inspector said my car passed without a problem I'd be jumping for joy instead of gawping at a huge repair bill which is far more likely.

Westmead_Fan

colino wrote: »

Why should there be an advisory at 2mm? Reason for rejection is 1.5mm, so should they make up rules that 2, 3 or 4mm is an acceptable advisory? There isn't one and only novice testers or centres trying to drum up business scatter the slip with a load of, I know it passed, but this might, at some undetermined point in the future, become a fail.

obviously not an mot tester this advice is poor, if vosa pulled a car in and the tester has not put advisory down they will won't be happy & may think what else have they missed and check there vehicles or even put a marker on the station to keep an eye on.

here is a question most vehicles on today's roads don't even see any kind of maintenance from one mot to the next, what would happen if for example the tester did not advise the pads customer does 10k miles pads are now metal to metal & fail, do you think the customer would be happy???

another example vehicle has oil leak but tester does not advise it as it is not an mot failure so customer drives thinking all is ok but over time the oil leak cause oil to go under minimum and damages the engine again would the customer be happy.

advisories are there to worn customers that advisory items require attention, but do not YET warrant an mot fail notice

Joe_Horner

Westmead_Fan wrote: »

advisories are there to worn customers that advisory items require attention, but do not YET warrant an mot fail notice

Including the odd (unlikely but possible) cases where something might warrant an advisory and a "dangerous" warning on the VT32, while still passing the test

colino

Westmead Fan I have no idea where you have picked up your view of MOTs, but only naïve testers with no real mechanical sympathy or knowledge make up their own, over cautious, benchmarks for fails or advisories. In truth the UK MOT is incredibly easy to pass, but a tester looking into a crystal ball and slathering every MOT with over cautious advisories is much more likely to be reviewed than one actually complying with the testers handbook.
The MOT is not a substitute for car maintenance.

Westmead_Fan

colino wrote: »

Westmead Fan I have no idea where you have picked up your view of MOTs, but only naïve testers with no real mechanical sympathy or knowledge make up their own, over cautious, benchmarks for fails or advisories. In truth the UK MOT is incredibly easy to pass, but a tester looking into a crystal ball and slathering every MOT with over cautious advisories is much more likely to be reviewed than one actually complying with the testers handbook.
The MOT is not a substitute for car maintenance.

most mot testers are or have been mechanics so they do know there ways around cars. the uk mot's is not hard to pass it is minimal standards so when you get advisory you should take note of them, dosen't mean get them done asap but in the future they most likely need doing. what do you call over cautious? if a part is showing signs of wear & tear and starting to fail then that is what that part of the mot is for.

perfect example an mot tester had carried out a test on a vehicle page of failures & advisories customer done just the failures so it passed on welding which they welded but the tester could not see how well the repairs were done due to the way they repaired it & under seal the vehicle, he passed it & advised as the book says, along with advisories was corrosion, 6 months car was sold & new customer rung the garage accusing him of doing a bad mot because the old customer welded using fiberglass on a mini & would cost quite a bit to repair vosa said due to him passing & advising they could do nothing it was the right thing to do.

i know on my vehicle if my pads were at 2mm i would want to know so i can decide on whether i change them now or let them go on for a couple of months the garage can't force you to replace them.