Base Unit for up to £ 2000 ?

myxbox

i got a quote from chilliblast yesterday i thought they were expensive compared to the above,

the difference is this machine is an Core i7 the other quote so far (PC Specialist) an Core i5 (i appreciate there is a difference in price for this).

" Chillblast NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 1024MB Graphics Card " , the other quote gives a better Graphics Card "2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 760 - 2 DVI, HDMI, DP - 3D Vision Ready"

chilliblast £ 406.00 more expensive, here is their quote, what do people think between the two quotes?

Fractal Design Define R4 Low Noise Case - Titanium Grey/Black

Intel Core i7 3770K Processor Overclocked to up to 4.2GHz

Noctua NH-D14 Ultimate Performance Quiet CPU Cooler - (Can be switched to a H80i or H100i liquid cooler for an additional £26.40 inc. VAT)

Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Paste

Quiet Cooling Fans Upgrade Pack

Asus P8Z77-V Motherboard

16GB Corsair PC3-12800 1600MHz DDR3 Memory (2 x 8GB sticks)

Chillblast NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 1024MB Graphics Card

Samsung 840 series 120GB Solid State Drive - (Can be removed saving £55 inc. VAT)

2000GB 7200RPM Hard Disk - 6Gbps - (This was the most cost efficient way to get 4TB of storage from the system.)

2000GB 7200RPM Hard Disk - 6Gbps

LG Blu-Ray ReWriter

Corsair CX 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified PSU

Onboard High Definition Audio

17 in 1 3.5" Internal Card Reader

Windows 7 Professional 64 bit

Windows Optimisation Service

Standard Chillblast Cable Management

Chillblast Gold 3 Year Collect and Return Warranty (Not currently on the website, included at previous price of £120 inc. VAT.)



I can offer this spec for £1600.00 including VAT and delivery.

myxbox

on the pc specialist quote i have changed the cpu to "Intel® Core™i7 Quad Core Processor i7-3770K (3.5GHz) 8MB Cache"

and the cost is coming out at £1,239.00

StumpyPumpy

myxbox wrote: »

Hi my friend will be using it for all ms office programs, web , adobe pro, he says he needs a high spec machine, as he may have like 10 pdfs open and 20 - 30 browser tabs open at once.

personally i think its a bit over kill myself

If that is all he wants it for then he is definitely looking at the wrong spec. Better to spend the money on Win7 Pro (or higher) and an MB that can support a lot of memory (192gb max IIRC but that would still be overkill) with the fastest memory and HD he can afford.

I regularly run similar apps - several large speadsheets and docs on the go, usually automated, Visual Studio dev environment, virtual machine test environment & CS6 are usually running simultaneously (not to mention browsing with FF and IE ) All that runs fine on my slightly dated quad core with 16gb.

SP

myxbox

i assume with this graphics "2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 760 - 2 DVI, "HDMI, DP - 3D Vision Ready" two of the monitors would have to connect via dvi and one hdmi?

paddyrg

myxbox wrote: »

Hi my friend will be using it for all ms office programs, web , adobe pro, he says he needs a high spec machine, as he may have like 10 pdfs open and 20 - 30 browser tabs open at once.

personally i think its a bit over kill myself

Massive overkill. Huge massive overkill. He's buying top of the market technology with a price to match, and all it's going to do maybe 99.99% of the time is idle and use electricity. I have a laptop that comfortably eats 20+ browser tabs and a dozen pdf's. Once a document or tab is open, it uses negligible processing power. The laptop can even do 3 monitors at a bit of a push using the different interfaces. And it was £600 18 months ago. I'd suggest that he can spend a grand less for the same effective use case functionality and that includes the monitors TBH.

Cycrow

StumpyPumpy wrote: »

Not at all. Water cooled systems can be virtually silent.

not really, you still need fans in a watercooled system, so they still make some noise. Quieter than a high powered fan on the GPU yes, but not silent.

the silent/passive watercooling isn't effective enough for high powered GPU's

Cisco001

myxbox wrote: »

on the pc specialist quote i have changed the cpu to "Intel® Core™i7 Quad Core Processor i7-3770K (3.5GHz) 8MB Cache"

and the cost is coming out at £1,239.00

Latest intel CPU is i7-4770K. Not i7-3770K. Intel recently change socket again!!

StumpyPumpy

Cycrow wrote: »

not really, you still need fans in a watercooled system, so they still make some noise. Quieter than a high powered fan on the GPU yes, but not silent.

the silent/passive watercooling isn't effective enough for high powered GPU's

Hence my use of the phrase "virtually silent".

A colleague of mine is very much into custom PC and overclocking and is constantly updating and rebuilding his systems. I don't know what his current spec is, but whatever the fastest last month was, he will have it and have oc'ed it to within an inch of its life. It includes a separate, custom built, cooler unit. The only thing you can hear in the slight whirring of the water pumps when it is going at full pelt. It is not my thing - I only know it is water cooled because he has phosphorescent water in clear tubes running through the cooler unit. Obviously, totally over the top for, well anyone really, but if you are prepared to pay (and build) water cooled systems can definitely be "virtually silent".

Cycrow

StumpyPumpy wrote: »

Hence my use of the phrase "virtually silent".

A colleague of mine is very much into custom PC and overclocking and is constantly updating and rebuilding his systems. I don't know what his current spec is, but whatever the fastest last month was, he will have it and have oc'ed it to within an inch of its life. It includes a separate, custom built, cooler unit. The only thing you can hear in the slight whirring of the water pumps when it is going at full pelt. It is not my thing - I only know it is water cooled because he has phosphorescent water in clear tubes running through the cooler unit. Obviously, totally over the top for, well anyone really, but if you are prepared to pay (and build) water cooled systems can definitely be "virtually silent".

A Separate unit does have the advantage of being slightly cooler but it will still have some kind of fans to keep the rad cool, especially if it needs to cool several OC'd GPUS and an OC'd CPU.

i have a 3x120 rad and that just about keeps my GPU and CPU cool, but uses 3x120 fans to cool down the rad. Its quieter than the original fan on the GPU but i wouldn't class it as virtually silent. Maybe in comparison to what it was, but its certainly louder compared to some other pc's i have.

althou my media center pc is completely silent

Johnmcl7

myxbox wrote: »

Hi my friend will be using it for all ms office programs, web , adobe pro, he says he needs a high spec machine, as he may have like 10 pdfs open and 20 - 30 browser tabs open at once.

personally i think its a bit over kill myself

What is all the storage required for? The functions you've just listed won't need that much in terms of hardware to perform well but the colossal amount of storage you mentioned in an earlier post suggests the machine is being used for something else in addition.

Also how important is reliability? If the person is going to be relying heavily on the machine I'd be considering something that comes with a business next day on site warranty.

John