parking penalty charge

Blitz900

hi,

Hi I have received a parking charge notice from PE for overstaying parking by 43mins in a chesterfield car park. This is the first PCN Ive ever received and the reason I am seeking advise is because the letter that I have had with the photos of the car entering and exiting just looks ridiculous. You cant see who is driving the car and on the photo exiting the car park you cannot see the number plate clearly.

Also the other reason Im looking for advise is because I have only just recently moved to Derbyshire and am in the process of changing my address on my driving licence. I received the letter this morning with two documents in it one is the PCN and another is a letter from the legal department 'notification of trace'. This is a very threatening letter saying now that they have found me (like Im on the run lol) the reduced cost will still apply within 14days if i do not act i will be taken to court and I will pay for 'issuing the court claim, tracing costs and our solicitors fees'. how the hell did they get my address if they couldn't get it from the DVLA?

so any advise what anyone would do in this situation would be great.

thanks

Custard_Pie

Blitz900 wrote: »

hi,

Hi I have received a parking charge notice from PE for overstaying parking by 43mins in a chesterfield car park. This is the first PCN Ive ever received and the reason I am seeking advise is because the letter that I have had with the photos of the car entering and exiting just looks ridiculous. You cant see who is driving the car and on the photo exiting the car park you cannot see the number plate clearly.

Also the other reason Im looking for advise is because I have only just recently moved to Derbyshire and am in the process of changing my address on my driving licence. I received the letter this morning with two documents in it one is the PCN and another is a letter from the legal department 'notification of trace'. This is a very threatening letter saying now that they have found me (like Im on the run lol) the reduced cost will still apply within 14days if i do not act i will be taken to court and I will pay for 'issuing the court claim, tracing costs and our solicitors fees'. how the hell did they get my address if they couldn't get it from the DVLA?

so any advise what anyone would do in this situation would be great.

thanks

Check the sticky links at the top of the forum on advice on what to do.

I'd make sure that your details on DVLA are correct and up to date in the unlikely event that they pursue a claim in the civil courts.

Assume that this is NOT a public car park. If it is private then it is NOT a parking fine as the Police and traffic wardens, etc issue, but an invoice for monies.

Browntoa

"legal Dept" and PE will be the same company.....name and shame both for confidence

ignore the train of "official" looking documents that may follow

Blitz900

thanks guys, Ive just updated my DVLA info, moving house is such a pain. Ive read a few of the forum posts Im seeing a lot of people just ignoring the threatening documents. does any know where they get their info from to find my address? that is what is worrying me the most.

Guys_Dad

Blitz900 wrote: »

thanks guys, Ive just updated my DVLA info, moving house is such a pain. Ive read a few of the forum posts Im seeing a lot of people just ignoring the threatening documents. does any know where they get their info from to find my address? that is what is worrying me the most.

Dead easy. From a credit agency such as Experian who are updated when people move home.

Now stop worrying about trivialities and get your appeal into them. Along the lines of

Name
Address

Date


Dear PPC,

Your invoice xxxxx dated xxxxx.

The driver does not recognise your authority in this car park or your right to impose any terms, conditions or contracts on parking motorists, and wishes to appeal on that basis.

If you reject this appeal, I require within 35 days a POPLA verification code for me to appeal independently as per the requirements set out on the POPLA web site, further supported by the BPA Code of Practice.

You have been given the reasons for the appeal above. I have nothing further to add, and will not respond to any correspondence from your company unless it contains the POPLA code.

Be aware that there will be formal complaints to POPLA and to the BPA if there is no POPLA code on any rejection that you supply.

Yours faithfully

Blitz900

Guys_Dad wrote: »

Dead easy. From a credit agency such as Experian who are updated when people move home.

Now stop worrying about trivialities and get your appeal into them. Along the lines of

Name
Address

Date


Dear PPC,

Your invoice xxxxx dated xxxxx.

The driver does not recognise your authority in this car park or your right to impose any terms, conditions or contracts on parking motorists, and wishes to appeal on that basis.

If you reject this appeal, I require within 35 days a POPLA verification code for me to appeal independently as per the requirements set out on the POPLA web site, further supported by the BPA Code of Practice.

You have been given the reasons for the appeal above. I have nothing further to add, and will not respond to any correspondence from your company unless it contains the POPLA code.

Be aware that there will be formal complaints to POPLA and to the BPA if there is no POPLA code on any rejection that you supply.

Yours faithfully

ok thanks for the help really appreciated

Blitz900

Guys_Dad wrote: »

Name
Address

Date


Dear PPC,

Your invoice xxxxx dated xxxxx.

The driver does not recognise your authority in this car park or your right to impose any terms, conditions or contracts on parking motorists, and wishes to appeal on that basis.

If you reject this appeal, I require within 35 days a POPLA verification code for me to appeal independently as per the requirements set out on the POPLA web site, further supported by the BPA Code of Practice.

You have been given the reasons for the appeal above. I have nothing further to add, and will not respond to any correspondence from your company unless it contains the POPLA code.

Be aware that there will be formal complaints to POPLA and to the BPA if there is no POPLA code on any rejection that you supply.

Yours faithfully

may be a stupid question but which is the best way to appeal, through the PE website on their appeal form or should I send them a letter.

Guys_Dad

Blitz900 wrote: »

may be a stupid question but which is the best way to appeal, through the PE website on their appeal form or should I send them a letter.

Belt & braces - both.

Coupon-mad

AFAIK the only way that a PPC can invoke registered keeper liability is if they obtain the data from the DVLA. Not from any other source.

I have read it somewhere, either in Schedule 4 or in the DFT Guide about POFA or maybe on the Parking Cowboys website...

ampersand

...and send any letter Recorded Delivery, trackable online, even if the recipient signature is illegible scrawl.

But the best thing is to follow couponmad's advice in bold.

It's nothing to lose sleep over.

nigelbb

Coupon-mad wrote: »

AFAIK the only way that a PPC can invoke registered keeper liability is if they obtain the data from the DVLA. Not from any other source.

I have read it somewhere, either in Schedule 4 or in the DFT Guide about POFA or maybe on the Parking Cowboys website...

Only the DVLA can confirm who the RK is they keep the database matching up RKs with vehicles.