rented property and gardening

CharlieRabbit01

I was hoping to find out whether or not they have to ask permission so when I go to my agency I can state that they are not allowed to access the garden without giving me notice in the same way they cannot access my house without giving me notice.

ognum

the agency don't have a choice they are required to give you the landlords name and address.

I will quote an answer you gave to another thread an hour or so ago

'clearly the answer you want is not here'

essjaytee

CharlieRabbit01 wrote: »

a lot of people have missed my point of can the landlord access the garden without telling me first?

Jees this the problem with forums sometimes you ask a simple question and everyone gets hooked on the other information you provide.

That's because people on here can only go on the info supplied by you...

What does it say in your contract? If you can't see any answers in there then speak to your letting agent (as you seem to be against the idea of speaking to the one person who can answer you directly).

Nobody on here can see what is in your contract, hence the numerous suggestions to speak to your landlord. Likewise your landlord won't be able to read your mind and know your feelings on the gardener...

CharlieRabbit01

essjaytee wrote: »

That's because people on here can only go on the info supplied by you...

What does it say in your contract? If you can't see any answers in there then speak to your letting agent (as you seem to be against the idea of speaking to the one person who can answer you directly).

Nobody on here can see what is in your contract, hence the numerous suggestions to speak to your landlord. Likewise your landlord won't be able to read your mind and know your feelings on the gardener...

It doesn't say much only it is our sole responsibility to maintain the garden.

I have sent an email to our agents about it, but I like to get my facts straight first.

I don't want to demand they tell me someone is coming if they don't have to.

I am not against speaking to my landlord I am simply without the means to do so and my agents have / will not give me the details as they say everything must go through them.

Out,_Vile_Jelly

CharlieRabbit01 wrote: »

I was hoping to find out whether or not they have to ask permission so when I go to my agency I can state that they are not allowed to access the garden without giving me notice in the same way they cannot access my house without giving me notice.

Unless the garden can only be accessed through the house/flat, then no they don't need to ask permission.

CharlieRabbit01

Out,_Vile_Jelly wrote: »

Unless the garden can only be accessed through the house/flat, then no they don't need to ask permission.

Thank you.

clark24

I would be very angry if my LL did that to me, without any warning. The garden, unless specified should be considered part of your property. You pay for exclusive rights to the garden and so to have someone enter it and 'mess it up' without your prior knowledge is out of order. What if there was something valuable missing (bike, mower etc) you would now have every right to believe it had been stolen by the gardener! And what if you went outside, expecting to sunbathe/read a book etc and there was a strange man in what is to all intents and purposes during the tenancy 'your' garden. That is trespassing!

We have had similar issues with our LL and neighbours, they feel that as a rented house the garden is more public than it actually is. The neighbours climb over our back wall and walk around ours peering in the windows, because they are friends with our LL and are basically very nosey. Our LL also lets himself in and prowls round, peering in windows. I have asked them to stop, or warn us before they enter as a) !!!!!! how intrusive and b) I have 2 large, territorial and protective guard dogs who I am now too scared to let out for a wee until I have checked the entire garden (it wraps round the entire house).

So yes, the LL should have given you a friendly warning there was a gardener on his way and also you have every right to be miffed. You have the right to quiet enjoyment, random unannounced men in your garden, regardless of what they are doing (unless it is gas/water emergency etc) is not ok.

Herbalus

clark24 wrote: »

. The neighbours climb over our back wall and walk around ours peering in the windows, because they are friends with our LL and are basically very nosey. Our LL also lets himself in and prowls round, peering in windows. I have asked them to stop, or warn us before they enter as a) !!!!!! how intrusive and b) I have 2 large, territorial and protective guard dogs who I am now too scared to let out for a wee until I have checked the entire garden

Put signs up about the dogs, and let them out. That will stop your landlord peering through the windows!!

CharlieRabbit01

clark24 wrote: »

I would be very angry if my LL did that to me, without any warning. The garden, unless specified should be considered part of your property. You pay for exclusive rights to the garden and so to have someone enter it and 'mess it up' without your prior knowledge is out of order. What if there was something valuable missing (bike, mower etc) you would now have every right to believe it had been stolen by the gardener! And what if you went outside, expecting to sunbathe/read a book etc and there was a strange man in what is to all intents and purposes during the tenancy 'your' garden. That is trespassing!

We have had similar issues with our LL and neighbours, they feel that as a rented house the garden is more public than it actually is. The neighbours climb over our back wall and walk around ours peering in the windows, because they are friends with our LL and are basically very nosey. Our LL also lets himself in and prowls round, peering in windows. I have asked them to stop, or warn us before they enter as a) !!!!!! how intrusive and b) I have 2 large, territorial and protective guard dogs who I am now too scared to let out for a wee until I have checked the entire garden (it wraps round the entire house).

So yes, the LL should have given you a friendly warning there was a gardener on his way and also you have every right to be miffed. You have the right to quiet enjoyment, random unannounced men in your garden, regardless of what they are doing (unless it is gas/water emergency etc) is not ok.

Thanks Clark I was beginning to think I was being un-reasonable in thinking that they shouldn't be allowed to just appear in my garden without telling me.

I waiting for a reply to my request so we'll see, but imo it shouldn't be a case of me asking to be told they are coming, the same rules should apply to the garden as it does to inside my property.

We have large windows over looking the garden and up till this point (since no one can see in unless your in the garden) I hadn't thought twice about walking undressed from my bathroom to my bedroom, I now make sure I at least have a towel or dressing gown to hand just in case some random person is in my garden un-announced.

Darren.B_2

Out,_Vile_Jelly wrote: »

Unless the garden can only be accessed through the house/flat, then no they don't need to ask permission.

I'd disagree. The garden's part of the property you're renting. I'd fully expect to be given advance notice if this arrangement had changed!