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BT pole on my property

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  • Grantnorth
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    Hi,
    I've followed your posts with interest and wanted to say thanks for posting. I'm about to embark on the same process with Openreach. I have a telegraph pole in an awkward location on a building plot I've just bought. There is no wayleave in place and I'd like it moved. So far all of my enquiries with BT have been met with 'place an order and pay £200 for a survey and a surveyor will investigate'.
    I'd enquired about getting it moved during my due diligence when I made the offer and the sellers got an Openreach surveyor out to the plot and reported the options. They can move to the edge of my plot. When I contacted them to request them to progress the move I just get 'place an order pay £200...'.

    My architect has advised 'serving notice on them' but I wasn't sure who I need to write to? Any advice based on your experience would be great.
    Thanks. G
  • Davesnave
    Davesnave Posts: 34,741 Forumite
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    Grantnorth wrote: »
    My architect has advised 'serving notice on them' but I wasn't sure who I need to write to? Any advice based on your experience would be great.
    Thanks. G

    I wrote to:
    Pole Objections
    PP1A 1st Floor
    York ATE
    The Stonebow
    YORK
    YO1 7NT

    If there is no wayleave in place, you can require BT Openreach to move the pole, BUT if you are 'improving' (i.e. developing) the land, as you appear to be, then I'm afraid you will have to pay their expenses for doing this.

    Look under 'Information for people at home or work' Asking us to move our network on their web site.
  • Bantex_2
    Bantex_2 Posts: 3,317 Forumite
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    Why buy a house with a pole in the garden if it bothers you that much?
  • grifferz
    grifferz Posts: 568 Forumite
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    edited 19 April 2014 at 8:52AM
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    Bantex wrote: »
    Why buy a house with a pole in the garden if it bothers you that much?

    Through reading of the original post I learned that they got the sellers to pay for a survey which indicated that the pole could be moved.
  • Davesnave
    Davesnave Posts: 34,741 Forumite
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    Bantex wrote: »
    Why buy a house with a pole in the garden if it bothers you that much?


    Why bother to post if others cannot clearly ID the post to which it refers?
  • G_M
    G_M Posts: 51,977 Forumite
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    Bantex wrote: »
    Why buy a house with a pole in the garden if it bothers you that much?
    Perhaps because the attractions of the house outweight the 'bother' of the pole?

    Or because the pole has no right to be there, so can be moved?
  • Davesnave
    Davesnave Posts: 34,741 Forumite
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    ....Or even because the vendor and the purchaser had no idea it was there!
  • red_debs
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    Hi I have a BT pole on my land that I want moved. I have checked with Openreach and there is no wayleaves agreement in place. The lady on the phone offered to put an agreement in place but I really want it moved.
    I understand that I can submit an official noticeto ask them to remove it under the Telecommunications Act 1984 but does anyone know the exact wording I need to use so that my request is noticed and not rejected? Also an address?
    I know many of you will say it is a solicitors job but I don't have the money to go down this route.
    Thank you
  • mgdavid
    mgdavid Posts: 6,706 Forumite
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    red_debs wrote: »
    Hi I have a BT pole on my land that I want moved. I have checked with Openreach and there is no wayleaves agreement in place. The lady on the phone offered to put an agreement in place but I really want it moved.
    I understand that I can submit an official noticeto ask them to remove it under the Telecommunications Act 1984 but does anyone know the exact wording I need to use so that my request is noticed and not rejected? Also an address?
    I know many of you will say it is a solicitors job but I don't have the money to go down this route.
    Thank you

    the answers to your question are given earlier in this thread. If you haven't already I suggest you read it all - you will be better informed for so doing.
    The questions that get the best answers are the questions that give most detail....
  • Davesnave
    Davesnave Posts: 34,741 Forumite
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    Red_debs, there's a distinction between asking BT/Openreach to move an illegal pole within your property to a convenient spot, and asking them to remove it altogether.

    In the latter case they'd have to find another home for it, probably among other reluctant land owners. For this reason, they are less likely to grant removal, and it's worth bearing in mind that they have the power to override the usual procedures in really difficult circumstances.

    I wrote to :
    Pole Objections
    PP1A 1st Floor
    York ATE
    The Stonebow
    YORK
    YO1 7NT

    In my letter I included this paragraph:
    " In the light of the above, we are now demanding that you remove your installed line equipment from our land within 28 days of receipt of this letter, as detailed under Paragraph 21 of The Telecommunications Code, Schedule 2, Paragraph 2 of the Telecommunications Act 1984, as amended by the Communications Act 2003 (The Code)."

    I think the other details are probably within this thread, but if there's anything specific I haven't covered, please ask.

    Best of luck! :)
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