2 year nursery funding - can we get anything?!

fraz_babe

Hi I was wondering if anyone could help me please I am not sure if i am posting on the right bit i wasn't sure where to post so I do apologies in advance.

Basically my OH works but i dont I am a stay at home mum and 12 weeks pregnant with our second. We cant get 2 year funding as we arent on benefits and he earns around £17000 with overtime. I managed to get creche for 6 weeks one day a week for 2 hours through my health visitor. My local childrens centre have got an offer on for 3 hours its £5 pounds so we are going that 3 days a week thats while its the school holidays but after that my son is going to be back to square one. He is delayed with his speech and the creche want to refer him for speech therapy which I am completely fine with and would like that to happen. But I want to know could we get any funding because of his delayed speech? I have read a few things on google where some people got funding when there children were delayed at speech but the health visitor is basically not helpful at all.

I was wondering if there's any way we can get some help? I even tried do volunteering at the children's center so he can get some creche/nursery and also it would do me good to but i cant even do that. Apologies if its on the wrong bit of the forum. Thank you

I forgot to put he will be 3 in December so he gets the 3 year funding in January anyway but i just want to try get something from September until December as he loves going the creche and I do think its helped. And they obviously think he is not talking how he should be as they are referring him for speech therapy. I am also asking about some courses when I go next week at the children's center but they are not really of anything of interest as they are maths English which i did last year doing an online course and I just feel like I am getting no where.

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Speak to the Health Visitor. Depending on your local authority policy he could get 15hrs now based on additional needs for speech and language. My son got 15hrs from age 2 for that reason.

gingergee

You dont need to be on benefits to get 2yof!!!! Really annoys me that!!! It alk depends on how much money that authority has spare to pay for it. I live in a very affluent area and our council has more money for nursery than they can give!! Get onto them, write a list as to why you deserve the place and appeal. Inbox me if you want, i know this system inside out x x x

princessdon

gingergee wrote: »

You dont need to be on benefits to get 2yof!!!! Really annoys me that!!! It alk depends on how much money that authority has spare to pay for it. I live in a very affluent area and our council has more money for nursery than they can give!! Get onto them, write a list as to why you deserve the place and appeal. Inbox me if you want, i know this system inside out x x x

If you know the system inside and out then you will know that income along with LSOA postcode is an important part. The funding is to narrow the gap between higher achievers and those from disadvantaged groups in EYFS data.

Op

Speech delay is a qualifier so once your SALT has seen him, you should be able to refer on this basis.

clearingout

it is my experience - and I have two children who are speech delayed - that there is a lot of reluctance to make an official diagnosis of speech delay before the age of 3. Certainly in my authority, the NHS won't undertake speech therapy until the age of 3. You should also be aware of long waiting lists - I waited 14 months for one of my children to be assessed by the NHS by which point he was speaking fine as I'd gone private.

I don't mean to be negative, but don't assume that you will get anything in place that quickly.

fraz_babe

Thanks for your replies! I've read a lot on the Internet about some people got there child in to nursery through delayed speech but I understand its different areas. I have heard about the long wait for speech therapy and they also said they may see my son and tell us to come back in a few months. My HV is absolutely useless and fobs me off every time. I have looked into doing some courses they do at the children's centre but the ones I'd be interested in he wouldn't get crèche or the ones he would get crèche for I've already done or are no use to me. I would do anything just get my son a couple of hours a week it's so expensive I guess we are gonna end up have to borrowing some money so he can go September - December. I'm gonna phone my HV again today but I expect to be fobbed off as per usual I just feel like she isn't interested and my son hits and bites himself when he's frustrated when we don't know what he wants??

kingfisherblue

OP, do you have any community centres with a creche in your area? Our local centre offers a variety of courses, often free, and has creche places for those who need them. The courses have varied over the years and have included maths, English, art for early years, Teaching Assistant levels 1&2, sign language, English as an additional language, various IT qualifications, etc.

Your local council may also offer different courses through Adult and Community Learning, and again, many may be free. If you sign up for an ACL course, you might be able to request a creche place at the nearest nursery or surestart centre (ACL courses are often held in libraries or community centres).

ETA: try Afasic for further help and advice for your son's speech. Friends of mine have a non-verbal daughter and they have found Afasic to be a great support, with plenty of relevant information and resources.

http://www.afasic.org.uk/

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fraz_babe wrote: »

Thanks for your replies! I've read a lot on the Internet about some people got there child in to nursery through delayed speech but I understand its different areas. I have heard about the long wait for speech therapy and they also said they may see my son and tell us to come back in a few months. My HV is absolutely useless and fobs me off every time. I have looked into doing some courses they do at the children's centre but the ones I'd be interested in he wouldn't get crèche or the ones he would get crèche for I've already done or are no use to me. I would do anything just get my son a couple of hours a week it's so expensive I guess we are gonna end up have to borrowing some money so he can go September - December. I'm gonna phone my HV again today but I expect to be fobbed off as per usual I just feel like she isn't interested and my son hits and bites himself when he's frustrated when we don't know what he wants??

Do speak to the HV, but in fact it was the disability link worker in the childrens centre who finally got us a referral to speech, pead & the nursery place. Maybe call in there and ask to speak to them.

My son is now almost 3 and diagnosed ASD, still no speech therapy until he is 3.5 but that is the point of the nursery place. Not to provide therapy but to give the communication skills a chance to develop. Never did get how being amongst other kids that also don't talk helps speech but it does lol.

princessdon

I can advise further if I know what you want. Is it respite for you, socialisation needs for child, access to SALT etc. there are other routes buts its hard to advise on limited info.

Eg would the 2yr funding be followed by 3 yr in same nursery? Is your postcode in 30 or 20 LSOA? If its 70% there are different routes

If socialisation only - what did his 2 year speech screening indicate? What results etc? Are there any other milestones not hit, how your current pregnancy is affecting you, any PND etc.

I'm happy to accept a PM if you want any more advice, for none personal disclosures if you post here I can advise re CAF (supported placements) and early intervention approaches/funding and criteria as 2013-2014 (20% across the uk) and his much each LA has been awarded isnt public knowledge yet.

brutus1983

My son is 2 and 3 in September and has been diagnosed with autism and I work missis stays at home and my son was declined for free nursery and I earn around 16k a year