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lodging at a housing association owned house.

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  • terryw
    terryw Posts: 4,396 Forumite
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    tzzt123 wrote: »


    We then contacted the housing association and told them what happened reminding them they are evicting people they're going to have to help again for no good reason hoping it would help the situation too.

    They haven't found a place for us yet the LL has spoken to us several times and it looks like she keeping the houseand better than that, walking around the house with paint bookletsyet she is still asking us to leave.

    I guess our rent is going to pay for the house repainted!

    The housing association is not evicting you. Your landlord has given you notice to quit. You may be waiting quite a while for the housing association to find a place for you.

    There is no reason whatsoever why the landlord should not spend the rent that you have paid on painting the house, or indeed spending it on whatever they want to spend it on.
    "If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
    Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools"
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  • Mojisola
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    tzzt123 wrote: »
    So what we discovered is not only that the landlord was not paying on time, but since its a counsel house, the rent we are paying for the room is higher than the rent the landlord pays for the house - and we are not the only lodgers.

    If the LL is paying less rent for a five-bedroomed house than she is able to charge for letting one room, something is very wrong.
  • zzzLazyDaisy
    zzzLazyDaisy Posts: 12,497 Forumite
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    Mojisola wrote: »
    If the LL is paying less rent for a five-bedroomed house than she is able to charge for letting one room, something is very wrong.

    I agree, but I also think it is very unlikely.

    In my area the rent on a 3 bed place with a housing association is around £90 a week, so a 5 bed house is going to be considerably more than that.

    In my area there is no way you would pay £90 for a room in a shared house so the chances of paying the same for a room as a whole 5 bed house is non-existent. Renting a room generally includes all utilities and often the provision of certain basics such as toilet roll and soap, and there is no council tax liability when you rent a room. So it is not a straight comparison anyway.

    But if OP has been paying such an exorbitant rent for the room, she should have no problem finding somewhere in the private sector for a similar amount.
    I'm a retired employment solicitor. Hopefully some of my comments might be useful, but they are only my opinion and not intended as legal advice.
  • tzzt123
    tzzt123 Posts: 63 Forumite
    So ive looked at the contract and its titled house share agreement and it say
    s on the contract that a written notice of 1 month 8s required if any of of the parties would like to end it.
  • olly300
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    tzzt123 wrote: »
    So ive looked at the contract and its titled house share agreement and it say
    s on the contract that a written notice of 1 month 8s required if any of of the parties would like to end it.

    You are a lodger you have basically no rights.

    If the landlord wants you out you have to get out all she has to give you is "reasonable notice" and she has given you that.

    You have admitted she told you she "thinks" she wants you to leave in a month.

    Unfortunately you will find through life that some people in the UK aren't very direct so "think" in this case means "Please leave at the end of the month".

    So start looking for a new place now.

    Edited to say: It's perfectly fine for a housing association tenant to take in a lodger. And the fact your rent for a room is about the same they pay for the entire place is fair as well.
    I'm not cynical I'm realistic :p

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  • CKhalvashi
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    I agree, but I also think it is very unlikely.

    In my area the rent on a 3 bed place with a housing association is around £90 a week, so a 5 bed house is going to be considerably more than that.

    In my area there is no way you would pay £90 for a room in a shared house so the chances of paying the same for a room as a whole 5 bed house is non-existent. Renting a room generally includes all utilities and often the provision of certain basics such as toilet roll and soap, and there is no council tax liability when you rent a room. So it is not a straight comparison anyway.

    But if OP has been paying such an exorbitant rent for the room, she should have no problem finding somewhere in the private sector for a similar amount.

    I agree it shouldn't happen, but unfortunately it does.

    I saw a 6 bed in Acton advertised at around £140 a week recently. Private rooms in homes (when we lived there anyway, so 6 years ago) were reaching £180 a week when we moved in March 2007.

    I don't know what they are now, as whilst we have businesses in the area, I don't own a property down there, but I know that a 1 bed apartment is £1200 a month now :eek:, as one of my employees has just rented it. This was the same road as we lived, which whilst it was expensive for the area, it was a nice place.

    CK
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  • barbarawright
    barbarawright Posts: 1,846 Forumite
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    Rent to rent is the successor to buy-to-let according to an article in yesterday's Guardian. Certainly doesn't do the tenants any favours

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2013/jun/29/rent-to-rent-property
  • tzzt123
    tzzt123 Posts: 63 Forumite
    What do you mean no rights? The contract clearly states "one month written notice".

    The LL has not been clear about asking us to leave up until 2 days ago when the LL decided they want to have no tenants at all. Up until then it was more like the LL was going to fight the housing association and that we might have to leave if she wouldn't be able to keep the the house. Some LL are unclear like you said
    but what if I was unclear and just ask my deposit one day without any warning ? That's why we signed a contract. So we know what to follow.

    Am I wrong?
  • tzzt123
    tzzt123 Posts: 63 Forumite
    Also what doesn't make sense is that with the current system which im assuming was set up to help people who couldn't afford a house,

    The housing association is giving a 5 bedroom house to some who is working full time. That person turns the house into a hotel making a profit margin of 300% in addition to the money made from the7r full time job while others who actually who actually cannot afford a house are denied any assistance.
  • CKhalvashi
    CKhalvashi Posts: 12,134 Forumite
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    tzzt123 wrote: »
    Also what doesn't make sense is that with the current system which im assuming was set up to help people who couldn't afford a house,

    The housing association is giving a 5 bedroom house to some who is working full time. That person turns the house into a hotel making a profit margin of 300% in addition to the money made from the7r full time job while others who actually who actually cannot afford a house are denied any assistance.

    There's a 'need' for rooms.

    A single person/couple get a 1 bed
    With 1/2 children under 11 = 2 bed
    With 1 over 11............... = 3 bed

    You get the message.

    CK
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