Thinking of fibre soon-but router wont be near master socket?

martin57

Hi,

Contract with Talktalk will be up in October, so thinking of maybe getting a deal with them for fibre to the cabinet, as its available in my area.

Only thing is my bt master socket is not near a power socket so in all probability will have to have fibre router beside the computer connected with Ethernet (current setup) Probably have a 10-15m cable run from master socket to router.

Current down speed is 3.4mbps depending of course if talktalk network is running ok.

Won't mind too much for a drop of a few mbits because of the cable run as its over 30mbps estimated speed with fibre.

Would this setup with router and extension more than likely work ok?

Thanks for any info.

martin57

Lifeforms

You'd be better extending the power socket to the master plug, then using a longer router cable to connect to the computer.

It will work, but you will see a reduction, whether it's anything noticeable, no idea.

As a general rule if you can get an power extension to near the master socket it'd be better doing it that way, and using the extension on the router to computer cable, carries better than extending a lead from the phone socket to the router.

Don't forget there's usually a meter or so on the power adaptor for the router/modem, but also a meter or so for the line from the router/modem to the phone socket. Sometimes meter and half, sometimes more. Might be able to stretch close to a nearby plug that way.

penrhyn

You need two power sockets, one for the fibre modem, and one for your router,there are two boxes.

InsideInsurance

Lifeforms wrote: »

You'd be better extending the power socket to the master plug, then using a longer router cable to connect to the computer.

Out of curiosity, why? The cable modem connects via ethernet to the master socket and the OP intends to connect their PC to the modem/ router by ethernet. Given there will be a total of 15m of ethernet cable no matter what is done why would it make any difference where along that stretch the modem sits? Are you claiming the signal from the fibre to the modem is somehow more sensitive to interference than the signal from the modem to the computer even though both are going along Cat5e cable or equiv

penrhyn

Its not fibre coming into the property its the same old copper pair that was used for ADSL.

mttylad

Copper paired wires will come to the telephone socket - a modem is plugged into that and needs power, moving the modem further away requires extending the phone line - extension lead etc and can be problematic.
AFAIK From the modem to the router is ethernet so this can be a lot longer.

You can always get the phone socket moved to somewhere where it can power the modem.

Retrogamer

InsideInsurance wrote: »

Out of curiosity, why? The cable modem connects via ethernet to the master socket and the OP intends to connect their PC to the modem/ router by ethernet. Given there will be a total of 15m of ethernet cable no matter what is done why would it make any difference where along that stretch the modem sits? Are you claiming the signal from the fibre to the modem is somehow more sensitive to interference than the signal from the modem to the computer even though both are going along Cat5e cable or equiv

The modem will need to sync up and the clearer the signal between that and the equipment in the cabinet then the higher the speed and the higher stability.
The modem & router merely act as a relay point and gateway for the connection and it's always better to extend the connection between the router and the devices, rather than the router and the master socket. The router receives the clean signal then forwards it on and it will go some distance again before beginning to attenuate. If you extend it between the router and the master socket then the router is relaying a signal which will have slightly higher risk of interference.

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penrhyn wrote: »

Its not fibre coming into the property its the same old copper pair that was used for ADSL.

Yes, it's fibre to the cabinet NOT fibre from the cabinet!

cootuk

How about them moving the master socket, or using a longer flylead to the BT modem they install?

spannerzone

You could get a BT ADSL extension kit like this:
http://www.clarity.it/xcart/product.php?productid=16139&cat=250&page=1

That should do the trick I'd have thought, doubt the BT engineer will fit it when he comes to install the 'fibre' connection though

Retrogamer

The BT extension kit is just the same as a high quality RJ11 cable you can get from ebay or similar, the only difference is the BT one is fixed to the wall.