renting a studio, and Severe Disability Premium

damino

If a person is on DLA Middle Rate, and living with their parents, and wants to move out into a studio.

They're not entitled to a studio until they get Severe Disability Premium.

They can get Severe Disability Premium when they're living on their own.

I spoke to somebody that said you have to move out into a studio, get the shared rate, and top it up yourself, then apply for SDP, and then when that's accepted, they'll pay the rest.

Is that right?

allen35

You will get SDP if you live alone.

If you are under 35 you will receive the shared room rate of LHA regardless of whether it's a 3 bed house or studio flat.

As you are on MRC of DLA, if the studio flat has 2 bedrooms and you need frequent overnight care you will need to write a letter stating this and who will be giving the overnight care, good idea to detail why you need overnight care and your Local Authority should grant you the 2 bedroom rate as long as you have 2 bedrooms in the property.

damino

allen35 wrote: »

You will get SDP if you live alone.

If you are under 35 you will receive the shared room rate of LHA regardless of whether it's a 3 bed house or studio flat.

As you are on MRC of DLA, if the studio flat has 2 bedrooms and you need frequent overnight care you will need to write a letter stating this and who will be giving the overnight care, good idea to detail why you need overnight care and your Local Authority should grant you the 2 bedroom rate as long as you have 2 bedrooms in the property.

That's wrong. You are entitled to the one bedroom rate if you're on middle or higher rate DLA. Just google it. But some say you need SDP (Severe disability premium) and that's the confusion.

It's one bedroom or studio. So what you said about 2 bedroom isn't relevant.

I don't think much of what you've said is relevant. And you don't necessarily have to tell them about your disability. If you're on DLA Middle rate then you have already proven that to the DWP. And DLA is about whether you need a carer, not whether you want one.

I think you don't actually have to apply for housing benefit first then top it up yourself(as my first post asked, and as I was also told from the benefits enquiry line). As you don't apply until you've moved out. Once you've moved out, you'd be entitled to Severe disability premium..

So regardless of whether you require SDP or not, it's no problem to get it once you've moved out. If on DLA Middle/higher.

You pay the first month LHA(housing benefit) in advance yourself and so you have a month to apply for housing benefit to get the rest paid.

allen35

Initially you should receive shared room rate if under 35, LA's aren't aware someone is receiving carer's allowance for you until you are receiving SDP.

Once you have moved into your 1 bed studio you can contact JCP and request the form for the additional SDP.

LA's should receive this info' electronically but best to inform them, you will then get the 1 bedroom rate of LHA.

The info' regarding overnight carer can be used for information purposes, if it was a 2 bedroom property that is how you would have to go about it to be entitled to the 2 bed' rate.

Also if requiring another bedroom for a carer MRC doesn't prove you need an overnight carer but care throughout the day.

damino

allen35 wrote: »

Initially you should receive shared room rate if under 35, LA's aren't aware someone is receiving carer's allowance for you until you are receiving SDP.<snip>

carers allowance isn't relevant, I don't think you understood my posts.

and you write "LA", and "MRC" what do those abbreviations you use stand for?

allen35

damino wrote: »

carers allowance isn't relevant, I don't think you understood my posts.

and you write "LA", and "MRC" what do those abbreviations you use stand for?

MRC=Middle Rate Care
LA= Local Authority

Someone receiving Carer's Allowance is relevant.

You won't be entitled to the Severe Disability Premium(SDP) if someone receives Carer's Allowance (CA) for caring for you.

allen35

damino wrote: »

If a person is on DLA Middle Rate, and living with their parents, and wants to move out into a studio.

They're not entitled to a studio until they get Severe Disability Premium.

You are entitled to rent a studio but you will get the shared room rate if under 35 and don't qualify for an SDP, therefore having to pay the extra towards your rent.

They can get Severe Disability Premium when they're living on their own.

You can get SDP if living alone as long as no one receives Carer's Allowance for looking after you.

I spoke to somebody that said you have to move out into a studio, get the shared rate, and top it up yourself, then apply for SDP, and then when that's accepted, they'll pay the rest.

Correct!! As long as no one is receiving Carer's Allowance and you are in receipt of SDP, they will pay the 1 bedroom rate which will be the local rate for your area, if this is more than your rent you will get the maximum rent, if not you will have to add the difference.

Is that right?

To save the confusion:

Dunroamin

damino wrote: »

That's wrong. You are entitled to the one bedroom rate if you're on middle or higher rate DLA. Just google it. But some say you need SDP (Severe disability premium) and that's the confusion.

It's one bedroom or studio. So what you said about 2 bedroom isn't relevant.

I don't think much of what you've said is relevant. And you don't necessarily have to tell them about your disability. If you're on DLA Middle rate then you have already proven that to the DWP. And DLA is about whether you need a carer, not whether you want one.

I think you don't actually have to apply for housing benefit first then top it up yourself(as my first post asked, and as I was also told from the benefits enquiry line). As you don't apply until you've moved out. Once you've moved out, you'd be entitled to Severe disability premium..

So regardless of whether you require SDP or not, it's no problem to get it once you've moved out. If on DLA Middle/higher.

You pay the first month LHA(housing benefit) in advance yourself and so you have a month to apply for housing benefit to get the rest paid.

If you know all this, why are you asking?

Housing_Benefit_Officer

damino wrote: »

That's wrong. You are entitled to the one bedroom rate if you're on middle or higher rate DLA. Just google it. But some say you need SDP (Severe disability premium) and that's the confusion.

Being in receipt of DLA Care middle of high rate won't automatically qualify you for 1 bed rate.

If someone gets Carers Allowance for you then you will only qualify for the Single Room Rate - as you lose the SDP - and yes Local Authorities will know as we have direct access to all your Social Security Benefit details via the CIS system - what the DWP see we can see and we can see if anyone is claiming Carers Allowance for you as they are linked on you claim held by the DWP.

damino

Housing_Benefit_Officer wrote: »

Being in receipt of DLA Care middle of high rate won't automatically qualify you for 1 bed rate.

though the next thing you write suggests that it might.

HBO wrote:

If someone gets Carers Allowance for you then you will only qualify for the Single Room Rate - as you lose the SDP -

so if somebody gets carers allowance for you, then you qualify for single room rate (without SDP)

and if somebody doesn't get carers allowance for you then you qualify for single room rate with SDP.

so in both cases you qualify for single bedroom rate, from what you've said.

so what did you mean when you said about DLA middle rate not qualifying for single room rate? (i.e. when you wrote

HBO wrote:

Being in receipt of DLA Care middle of high rate won't automatically qualify you for 1 bed rate.

Did you actually mean that it will qualify you for 1 bed rate but won't necessarily qualify you for SDP? (that's a little different to what you wrote though).

damino

allen35 wrote: »

To save the confusion:

re post#7, we're on the same page. you have successfully nullified the confusion from your earlier post!