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I would like some help with this issue i have with facebook please...

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  • Darrenr
    Darrenr Posts: 14 Forumite
    In all honesty yes.

    Your son has been very devious, not only has he used your number, he's taken your phone and deleted the messages confirming the purchases he's made.

    I don't know if they have told you what time these transactions took place, but I'm guessing for your son to be able to get away with this he's been up to no good after you've gone to bed.

    The times and dates are listed on my bill.
    They have all happended during times when i and my handset were in the house, although not in the same place

    Thanks

    Daz
  • peachyprice
    peachyprice Posts: 22,346 Forumite
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    Goodness, that's even worse, he really did take advantage of you.
    Accept your past without regret, handle your present with confidence and face your future without fear
  • Darrenr
    Darrenr Posts: 14 Forumite
    wealdroam wrote: »
    Are you still looking for a way to shift the blame for this episode onto Facebook or your phone service provider?

    I thought earlier posts might've convinced you that any responsibility for the missing £135 lies firmly with either you or your son.

    Edited to add:
    Your later post seem to confirm that you accept your responsibility.

    Just to be clear. I am not trying to shift blame to my phone provider or facebook. I know who is to blame and that is quite clearly as has been expressed in many posts ME.

    My enquiry was regarding if there was a posibility or route that i could take to recover the money from facebook, as the charges were made by someone who is not 18, and at the same time without my consent.

    What i have learnt from the reponses is a important lesson regarding securing my personal devices, and from a couple from more personal comments that i have failed to instil into my son basic responibility for money and other peoples property. And if i have failed to do this, how can he be at fault.

    Thanks

    Daz
  • peachyprice
    peachyprice Posts: 22,346 Forumite
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    Darrenr wrote: »
    My enquiry was regarding if there was a posibility or route that i could take to recover the money from facebook, as the charges were made by someone who is not 18, and at the same time without my consent.

    Yes, there is, it will mean going to the police and reporting your son.
    What i have learnt from the reponses is a important lesson regarding securing my personal devices, and from a couple from more personal comments that i have failed to instil into my son basic responibility for money and other peoples property. And if i have failed to do this, how can he be at fault.

    As for this comment, I can't quite believe you think this is your fault. Are you going to take the blame if he steals from friends too, or gets caught shoplifting?
    Accept your past without regret, handle your present with confidence and face your future without fear
  • Darrenr
    Darrenr Posts: 14 Forumite
    Yes, there is, it will mean going to the police and reporting your son.



    As for this comment, I can't quite believe you think this is your fault. Are you going to take the blame if he steals from friends too, or gets caught shoplifting?

    I was refering to a previous point made that at 15 my son should have an understanding of money and its value. If he doesnt, then only those who have brought him up can be at fault.

    Thanks

    Daz
  • Stop shifting the blame onto yourself and making excuses for him. Your son is the one at here fault not you.
  • wealdroam
    wealdroam Posts: 19,180 Forumite
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    Darrenr wrote: »
    My enquiry was regarding if there was a posibility or route that i could take to recover the money from facebook, as the charges were made by someone who is not 18, and at the same time without my consent.
    You make two points here.

    Firstly, it is legal for people under 18 to enter into contracts.
    The problem is that under 18s cannot be pursued if breaking the contract. For this reason, most companies do not allow contracts with under 18 year olds.
    Of course, having said that, Facebook or your phone service provider have no way of knowing who actually made the request.

    Secondly, your consent is implied... simply because another person had unrestricted access to your phone.
    Have you thought about securing your phone with a password, or maybe some other security feature?
  • peachyprice
    peachyprice Posts: 22,346 Forumite
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    Darrenr wrote: »
    I was refering to a previous point made that at 15 my son should have an understanding of money and its value. If he doesnt, then only those who have brought him up can be at fault.

    Thanks

    Daz


    No, some children are just born bad and no amount of good parenting will change that.

    The last thing your son needs is to know that you think it's all your fault for somehow not instilling in him a sense of right and wrong that comes naturally to most children.
    Accept your past without regret, handle your present with confidence and face your future without fear
  • sgun
    sgun Posts: 725 Forumite
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    ooh peachyprice - harsh!

    I'm a teacher and I get told this same story all the time by parents. The parents fall into two categories, the overindulgent "my son/daughter didn't know what they were doing, they don't understand, bless them" types and the "never again, they will learn from this, they are old enough to know better" types. You don't tend to get any "it must be my fault because I have brought them up badly" types. No-one admits to that!

    If you blame yourself your son has the upper hand and will do things like this over again as you are not allowing him to take any responsibilty after you have allowed him rights.

    No-where in your posts do you seem to want to blame your son, perhaps you need to have a think about why that is?
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